Re: Can Office use OCR to read in handwritten documents ?

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Dear Herb,

I just wanted to say thanks again for taking the time. At first I thought I
was crazy and at least now I understand how it really works.

Andy

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

> No, I can't think of a way to make the tool remain selected. All in all,
> it's very awkward, and I wouldn't want to have to work like that for more
> than a very short period--hence the phrase "very crude workaround, at best"
> :-). Most annoying, for me anyway, is that if I were annotating something,
> my pen would be down on the Wacom tablet, and the "something" would be on
> the screen. I understand that there are people who have suffienct eye-hand
> coordination to work that way, but I'm not one of them. If you have just a
> little to do, it works. But, ergonomic, convenient or natural... it's not.
>
> Here's a workaround... buy a tablet PC! ;-)
>
> My handwriting is so bad that even the best tablet PCs have trouble
> deciphering what I scrawl. The only way I'll ever have a tablet PC is if
> it's the only computer available... and even then, I'd quickly find a way to
> connect a keyboard to it.
>
> Good luck!
>
> --
> Herb Tyson MS MVP
> Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along.
> http://www.herbtyson.com
> "ATD mapman" <ATDmapman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:8EDDDD96-5E0F-469B-9BC9-4A3608DF4FDC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Dear Herb,
> >
> > I've been thinking about this part of your response:
> >
> >> In my case, I can accomplish what you're talking about, however, by using
> >> my
> >> Wacom pen to control Word's scribble tool (on the drawing toolbar, choose
> >> Autoshape - Lines - Scribble). But, it's a very crude workaround, at
> >> best.
> >
> > This would be an even better idea if the scribble tool would stay
> > selected.
> > Then you could just keep writing (annotating) without having to select the
> > tool again. Do you know of a way to keep the tool selected?
> >
> > Again, thanks for your help. My hope is they will implement ink in the
> > regular version of office. I read someplace else that ink objects are
> > different than draw objects so it certainly seems it could be done.
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > "Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> Mine actually appears to have an ink capability--you can insert
> >> handwritten
> >> notes, and they aren't converted into text. When I choose Handwriting -
> >> Write Anywhere. But, they seem to want to take the place of text, rather
> >> than sitting in the drawing layer. There doesn't seem to be an option to
> >> insert them in front of text, rather than in line with text. And, setting
> >> Word to default (Tools - Options - Edit) to inserting grapics in front of
> >> text doesn't affect the ink objects.
> >>
> >> In my case, I can accomplish what you're talking about, however, by using
> >> my
> >> Wacom pen to control Word's scribble tool (on the drawing toolbar, choose
> >> Autoshape - Lines - Scribble). But, it's a very crude workaround, at
> >> best.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Herb Tyson MS MVP
> >> Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along.
> >> http://www.herbtyson.com
> >> "ATD mapman" <ATDmapman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:8BE9EA94-A1B6-4B1E-84C1-64D544C9B4DA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Thanks Herb,
> >> >
> >> > You are correct about language recognition. The problem is this is
> >> > really
> >> > only designed for handwriting recognition. It does not allow
> >> > annotations
> >> > that
> >> > sit directly on top of a document (like a professor does when reviewing
> >> > a
> >> > paper). Ink, like works for tablet PCs (and incidentally does work for
> >> > PowerPoint during a presentation only) allows annotations directly onto
> >> > the
> >> > document.
> >> >
> >> > They should have allowed the "ink" capability for people with Wacoms.
> >> >
> >> > Any other ideas?
> >> >
> >> > Andy
> >> >
> >> > "Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I don't know about the Intuos, but the ink feature works with my Wacom
> >> >> Graphire pad, which is attached to a normal desktop PC. If you
> >> >> right-click
> >> >> the language bar and choose Settings... in the Settings tab, there
> >> >> should
> >> >> be
> >> >> a Handwriting Recognition section. If not, click Add and see if you
> >> >> can
> >> >> enable/add it.
> >> >>
> >> >> If you don't see the language bar, right-click Windows' taskbar and
> >> >> choose
> >> >> Toolbars - Language bar (unless it's already checked).
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Herb Tyson MS MVP
> >> >> Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along.
> >> >> http://www.herbtyson.com
> >> >> "ATD mapman" <ATD mapman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> >> news:3BC2E10F-384B-4D07-905D-B04D61D6EB8D@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> > Hello,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I just read the below
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> The ability to process 'ink' (handwritten notes) into
> >> >> >> documents while it ships with Office comes from the capabilities
> >> >> >> in Windows XP for Word 2003.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > My testing of office 2003 seems to say that the ability to process
> >> >> > "ink"
> >> >> > is
> >> >> > only available if you are using a tablet PC. I have a wacom intuos
> >> >> > tablet
> >> >> > with a desktop PC and would love to use the "ink" feature. Is there
> >> >> > any
> >> >> > way?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks, Andy
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Bob Buckland ?:-)" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Hi Miksoft,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> MS Office apps can generally accept OCR results from
> >> >> >> a variety of brands of Optical Character Recognition,
> >> >> >> (i.e. Word, Excel do not in themselves possess an ability
> >> >> >> to do the recognition). The MS Office Document Imaging app
> >> >> >> will attempt to 'read' and turn things into text but some
> >> >> >> of the 3rd party OCR apps are stronger in their abilities.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> The ability to process 'ink' (handwritten notes) into
> >> >> >> documents while it ships with Office comes from the capabilities
> >> >> >> in Windows XP for Word 2003.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> ============
> >> >> >> <<"miksoft" <miksoft@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:ACFB7DAB-E937-46FF-9788-43198BD234D9@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> >> Want to convert many handwritten pages into text in MS Word.>>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Let us know if this helped you,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Bob Buckland ?:-)
> >> >> >> MS Office System Products MVP
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> For Everyday MS Office tips to "use right away" -
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> http://microsoft.com/events/series/administrativetipsandtricks.mspx
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