Re: Windows Vista Business N "Media Player"

That, I agree with. I just have no knowledge or experience in licensing Windows in the EU.

Dale

"zachd [MSFT]" <zachd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:eabsDR6RHHA.4276@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

If you could give me as much information as possible about what agreement you have with what agency via what personnel, I'd like to understand WTF they're doing. It seems like they are providing you extremely poor service, so I'd like to follow up as possible.

The secondary mention was that there was a disc naming issue on some CDs sent to people that made them *think* they were running a "N" system, but in fact WMP (wmplayer.exe) was actually on the system. I don't imagine that's your case, but it bears mentioning.

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"Yogiman!" <Yogiman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:0E7422EB-5219-40DE-B8E6-15510BC4FE07@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Hi, Sorry this post makes no sense to me?

Yogiman!

"zachd [MSFT]" wrote:


As much specifics as is possible would be great. Somebody is being
boneheaded here.

Note that there was some confusion about images called n_blahblablah, but
those were not actually "N" images. If you're randomly getting "N" SKU
images, that seems like somebody somewhere is a little strange.

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"Yogiman!" <Yogiman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Hi our disks were sent out by Microsoft themselves! What can I say!
>
> Cheers
>
> Yogiman!
>
> "zachd [MSFT]" wrote:
>
>>
>> Which educiation licensing agreement? I can't think of why you'd be
>> getting
>> N. It doesn't make sense - something is missing in this story.
>>
>> If lots of people are getting "N" and not wanting "N", that appears >> to be
>> fairly "not the best plan" and probably should be corrected back at >> that
>> errant source.
>>
>> The whole point of N is to Not include WMP. That's all EU N SKU >> design
>> stuff and stuff that I wouldn't touch those discussions with a ten >> foot
>> pole. Make it work right - that's the goal. The MRP simply isn't
>> available
>> right now. The fact that you're being sold N when wanting a regular >> SKU
>> is
>> utterly bizarre to me, and I think somebody is taking advantage >> here....
>> ?
>>
>> -Zach
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>> "Yogiman!" <Yogiman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:2D434D9F-90DA-432D-9A4B-894D92AF4B07@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Hi to both of you, and thanks for replying.
>> >
>> > We are signed up for the educational licensing agreement, microsoft
>> > supply
>> > us with the products we need and are entitled to as an educational
>> > establishment. Our 3rd party supplier has checked it out and >> > apparently
>> > we
>> > are on the correct licence.
>> >
>> > I have searched around for the "Media Restore Pack" you are correct >> > no
>> > mention of it in any download area.
>> >
>> > Your correct there is massive confusion about this and it would >> > appear
>> > lots
>> > of unhappy people.
>> >
>> > Personally I have had to remove Vista and re-install Windows XP, I
>> > really
>> > don't want multiple 3rd party media players on my computer, other
>> > people
>> > may
>> > like that and of course that is their choice but personally I like >> > to
>> > keep
>> > my
>> > machine as streamlined as possible so multiple media player >> > solutions
>> > are
>> > not
>> > the answer. I do this that if MS are just following the rules >> > applied
>> > by
>> > a
>> > legal ruleling it would have been far better to just have an option >> > to
>> > install or not install media player when your are installing >> > Windows
>> > Vista!
>> > That may be a simple solution and perhaps I am not looking at the
>> > bigger
>> > picture. However if MS have done this so that if you want media >> > tools
>> > you
>> > have to purchase a more expensive alternative solution then thats >> > just
>> > tight!
>> > I have 13,400 WMV files and around 600 WMV files which if >> > installing
>> > VISTA
>> > I
>> > can find no single solution to deal with it.
>> >
>> > Here's an Idea MS knock up a quick web page and have me click a >> > button
>> > and
>> > charge me £20 to install media player under a different name! That >> > way
>> > I
>> > won't have to kick MS into touch, convert all my WMA,WMV files into
>> > MP3/MP4
>> > and install Linux ;-)
>> >
>> > Thanks again for the reply gents! I appreciate your taking the >> > time.
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> >
>> > Yogiman!
>> >
>> > "zachd [MSFT]" wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> The "N" SKUs are systems without "Windows Media Player". If you >> >> want
>> >> a
>> >> system with Windows Media Player, you would not want an "N" SKU, >> >> and
>> >> may
>> >> wish to revisit your license... ?
>> >>
>> >> Windows Media Player is restored on an "N" SKU via the Media >> >> Restore
>> >> Pack
>> >> (this may have a fancier name, that's just what I've called it). >> >> The
>> >> Media
>> >> Restore Pack is not currently available, but is likely scheduled >> >> to be
>> >> available within the next month or so.
>> >>
>> >> So, the behavior you're seeing is expected at this time. I don't >> >> know
>> >> why
>> >> you're getting "N" SKU licenses if you don't those: I would >> >> revisit
>> >> that.
>> >> =\
>> >>
>> >> -Zach
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>> >> See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
>> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers >> >> no
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>> >> "Yogiman!" <Yogiman!@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> news:EECC20A3-8912-45AE-A773-7313926A9FD3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> > Hi
>> >> >
>> >> > Under our license we are supply with Windows Vista Business N >> >> > which
>> >> > does
>> >> > not
>> >> > come with Windows Media Player "reason unknown".
>> >> >
>> >> > So I thought simple go to microsoft downloads and download it.
>> >> >
>> >> > However if you go to the Microsoft Download site there is a big
>> >> > advert
>> >> > saying Windows Vista and media player so I clicked it and it >> >> > tells
>> >> > me I
>> >> > already have media player if I have Windows Vista! Well >> >> > obviously I
>> >> > don't.
>> >> > So it won't let you download it.
>> >> >
>> >> > I have tried the Media Player 11 for XP and it does not work.
>> >> >
>> >> > Now can anyone help me? Can I or can I not install media >> >> > player. I
>> >> > don't
>> >> > want to use anyone elses player I am not interested I have used
>> >> > media
>> >> > player
>> >> > for years.
>> >> >
>> >> > Is this Microsoft keeping Brussels happy and not bundeling media
>> >> > player
>> >> > with
>> >> > european copies of Windows Vista, if so post it on your web site >> >> > so
>> >> > we
>> >> > who
>> >> > still want to use it can download it.
>> >> >
>> >> > or is this Microsoft stopping business users from using Windows
>> >> > Media
>> >> > Player
>> >> > in a busniness environment and if so why?
>> >> >
>> >> > Any help appreciated.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks
>> >> >
>> >> > Yogiman!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>






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