Re: Cannort get Radio Play Lists to Come up in WMP on any computer
- From: "Chad Harris" <Win 7@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 01:56:58 -0400
Zach--
I was posing a question to you which basically went how in the world are you supposed to get internet radio in WMP 11 or 12.
Can you please answer this question Zach? What is the purpose of the Internet Radio as put on the www.windowsmedia.com site by your team? I assume it is to work. You are postulating that (I suppose) it isn't working very well because I've loaded junk and noyt a real 7057 or that at this current time with RC about to go to Beta Testers and probably already at TAP testers that 7057 is a waste of time. I'm betting that 7057 is darn close to RC and that many features from many teams have been locked in for a good while. I'm not clear on that but I hope to get clear on it.
Do you think Mary Jo Foley, and Raphael from Within Windows, and Ed Bott and Paul Thurott are using jsunk 7057 that they've been blogging extensively on and screen shooting extensively because I don't. And I'd be willing to bet I'm using the same Win 7 builds they are.
1) Are you no longer including internet radio in the player itself? In Windows 11 or in Windows 12?
2) I was able to get some stations to play from the streaming site but they needed to be downloaded first. If that's the case with all of them why in the world did you guys do that? It seems as if you diminished the radio playing capacity exponentially when you did. Most of the links I'm clicking on at your www.windowsmedia.com site simply don't play.
If the same thing happens on my Vista boots with that site in WMP 11, then I think that is very unfortunate, and it would have nothing to do with a sub beta quality build. My Vista Boots are RTM, or at least the packages said they were.
You wrote:
"Everything NOT the 7000 build is NOT beta quality."
I really don't understand what you mean. I find that confusing to say the least. I think my 7057 is the most sophisticated and best running build I've used so far, and I've used all of them that have gotten into the wild.
I just bet that when I go to Vista on both these boxes as a dual boot it doesn't work any differently If your postulating that I've somehow installed a rogue piece of junk instead of precisely the same 7057 that your Tap testers, your colleagues on that campus in the various buildings, I'd like to respectfully disabuse you of that notion. I don't think so.
What I'm doing is meticulously taking the features that Mr. Sinofsky and the Windows 7 team are describing at abhttp://blogs.msdn.com/e7/
and some other handpicked blogs like Ed Bott's 3 sites ( a reasonably proficient user of Windows and author of the Windows 7 MSFT Press book) and seeing what I can learn, bugs I can find, and features I want to improve upon or lobby for.
I may have a platform to lobby that as you say is wasting my time but I know a little about Windows and I'll do my best.
I don't believe I'm completely and utterly wasting my time or anyone else's. I want to be very explicit about what I'm seeingat and as long as you're good enough to be reading my question, I'd appreciate it if you would comment on the site I'm reaching that you guys put on the web.
I mean Zach www.windowsmedia.com is not exactly a rogue or 3rd party site. It's you. It can be reached by Vista. I don't have XP on any of my boxes any more and haven't for some time. I could carve out a partition quickly and load it. But I do have dual boots with Vista SP2 and I betcha as ole Sarah would say that I could reach your windows media streaming site if that's what it's purpose is (google says that) with Vista.
Here is what I'm doing. I have WMP 12 playing videos very well and playing music very well on a much faster OS than Vista that is serving very well as a production machine for me on two computers. The only software I have not gotten to work perfectly on it is Perfect Disk which no build of Win 7 will allow to load and Windows One Care which Win 7 will not allow to load. I used Avira a efree AV that works just fine as an AV, and the native defragger which is better each time MSFT makes an OS but is no match for Perfect Disk, and I suppose legal s considerations keep the defragger from competing with Perfect Disk and Diskeeper although no one expexcts MSFT to ship all kinds og if 3rd party apps with the OS. My understanding is that One Care is going to evolve and a new AV will be shipped (dubbed Morro) when Win 7 RTM'sg , (and available as a free standing download later this year) and MSFT is part of an AV alliance with Trendlabs and Network Associates McAfee anyway which I suppose is to the good.
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/nov08/11-18NoCostSecurityPR.mspx
I usually read http://blogs.technet.com/filecab/default.aspx to keep up with the features that the defrag people add to each new OS or their rationale and to keep up with a number of other things, and often they post a good number of Beta chats for the OS's there or they used to.
I don't quite understand what you mean here. MSFT is releasing these builds to Beta testers and TAP to test, and if they aren't Beta quality, than what quality are they--"sub Beta quality to Beta testers and TAP testers" does not make sense unless you think I'm dumb enough to be using pieces of junk. I think I could disabuse you of that with screen shots very quickly. I'm using the same bits although certainly not builds that change every day like your colleagues on campus ansumd only because that's not possible and it would be a little time consuming it it were.
I'm familiar with the concept having Beta tested in the past that newer builds can develop bugs that older builds did not have for specific features. I'm also familiar with the fact that newer builds might (although this would be rare in my perception develop bugs in features that were already deemed bugs fixed).
I suppose that you mean that the only official Beta release is 7000. I have no idea if that's the case. I know it's what has been released as CPP. I've used 6801 when it was in the wild, including the blue badge unlock programs from www.withinwindows.com and I'm using 7048 on one computer and 7057 on the other.
I suppose that the RC build will be released about 4/10 either to TBT or CPP.
I upgraded 7048 to 7057. The only reason I didn't upgrade my notebook to 7057 64 bit was that it required 11GB plus for a 2 to 3 GB OS (I suppose due to some expansion files needed to set it up that will be trimmed in later builds as they were in Vista). The upgrade worked perfectly. I know Beta on Beta upgrade. The operating system works extremely well. For all practical purposes once I set up WMP on the one computer where it was balking because of the "artifact aka bug aka group policy needed for First Use or Alt+N and then enter key needed to set up WMP this OS works very well. It is considerably faster and considerably more CPU efficient than Vistg on a on these same boxes.
I'm dual booting on both computers so I can easily compare Vista to Win 7 to see if I can repro the same problems with the Windows media in
ternet radio site from your team.
BTW there are several situations when G-Part from Linux Gnu or Gnome will carve out a partition quickly and diskmgmt.msc and/or Diskpart in Windows 7 or Vista will not. But that's far from the only instance when you can use Linux to increase your options with Windows any flavor including booting aids to Startup Repair and the Bootrec switches that I find very helpful in fixing Vista or Windows 7 no boots.
http://gparted.sourceforge.net/
CH
"zachd [MSFT]" <zachd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:OkLuedCsJHA.3444@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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If this isn't the 7000 build, you may be getting completely utterly invalid results and may be completely and utterly wasting your time.
Everything NOT the 7000 build is NOT beta quality.
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