Re: What music and art files upload ?

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Thanks, Neil for your prompt answer.

Is it any wonder why records refuse to die ;-) It seems that every source has it's own set of rules or a collective set of regulations that have to be weeded out accordingly.

I know that most people don't care or have not taken the time to find out the possible repercussions of illegal or incorrect copying. For many, at least south of my border, it's much simpler. For we Canucks, it's not. It's sort of like using a tool without having read the manual. Then one day you find out the tool won't do what you want it to or you may find out it will do more. On a really bad day it won't work at all.

As far as music goes . . . the problems are simple compared to graphics and photos. Unfortunately, one has to hope that credit or ownership is what it says it is. Often it is not.

I'm still of the group, having been a professional with 29 years hands on audio and video, both as an operator and Producer/Director, that believes in some leeway for non-commercial use. If only for simplicity reasons. I still buy quality media for enjoyment and I am sure there are plenty of contributors to support those that require it. Still, I don't write the rules. And I don't create new technology to replace the current or older technology.

I have had luck with adding my own album art, but a right click for properties to show credits would be advantageous and I am not sure how to do it otherwise in Media Center other than on the original pre-album pasting. It seems to be an absolute requirement for one to use even a permissive work so there is need for such a thing on the album art once completed. I did find some place in the Advanced Tag Editor and tab 'Pictures' that will allow some info to be typed. But, I doubt that would do it for others to access the credit, and to be acceptable need be. I don't know how it works or what the ramifications are from online stores and providers as far as giving and accessing credit goes. I don't see any related online store or provider copyright info in those tabs. I'm of the belief that fair use in the States takes care of it, we don't have a fair use ruling in Canada yet and may never have such a thing like other countries.

If Microsoft and the media providers could make the copyright issue easily available for all to see and use we would not be guessing. If the regulations and rules were simplified they could be attached to the files. Novel idea, don't ya think? I guess that's why "ignorance of the law is no excuse" takes precedence. I think I know why that law was made.

I sure would prefer a larger album cover upon playback while still keeping the normal smaller size original (I'm using 202 X 200 pixels most often for originals . . . but it can vary depending on what I can get). At times I have taken to photograph my own CD covers then reduced them, Neil. Sometimes this works better . . . sometimes not if there is a better resolution from an Internet source, albeit smaller. I also have a new scanner, but have yet to use it.

Incidentally, Neil, I have taken time to read U.S., Canadian, Aussie, British, Swiss, and French copyright rulings (briefly of course), and Canada seems to be the most restrictive for the time being. Some have interpreted that to not be the case; however, because there are no laws confirmed in some areas of copying concern . . . it presently leads downloading and storage open to interpretation and lawyers. Phooey! (Nothing against lawyers, just the bundle of unnecessary profitable jargon gunk). We should know before the landing on Mars what will be the new rulings for copying, Media Player included. That's if all of the appeals cease to keep things at a crawl.

Thanks Neil, once again for your help. I hope I have shed some light on the reality.

- G Wiz




"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" <neil@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:h9sh141o6q6armt31rn1p7f3pngdco8jsd@xxxxxxxxxx
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:37:50 -0500, "G Wiz" <Nothere_@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Here's are my questions . . . in the possibility that our judges decide it's
OK to copy to our PC but not upload (with or without our knowledge of the
transmission) . . . I would like to know if Windows Media Player/Center
sends the music file and Album artwork back to either Microsoft, AMG, or any
other recipient. Or is it simply data that cannot be resurrected as music
and art? This could be an issue.


I think there is as you noted, a separate copyright issue about the
album artwork other than that granted for the music content.

AFAIK the player never uploads user artwork, although it used to (and
still may sometimes) upload track information if that's not been
provided already by a commercial music provider like AMG.

Like many people, I find it irritating that there doesn't seem to be a
route to get higher quality / size artwork at present, I guess that's
down to the over-restrictive US copyright legislation.

AFAIK you should be able to add your own artwork to the album folders
by adding a folder.jpg containing the intended image, if you happen to
have a better quality image (e.g. from iTunes or AMazon web service)

HTH
Cheers - Neil
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