Re: now playing audio file



"zachd [MSFT]" wrote:


"Dale" <dale0973@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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The library quote is exact. It is an exact copy-and-paste from a post by
you. It isn't taken out of context. The attribution is to you and not
the
team. The team comes in because, though you often say you don't speak for
the team, in this quote you specifically did speak for the team.

It involves my personal value judgements within a specific context that you
then sickly apply to be that of a team I have no involvement with and never
have. Me != library team. =)


You mentioned the team in your quote. I did not originate the concept of
"team" in that context.



And since when are you the expert on what I say or what I mean? At what
point in my life am I not allowed to speak off the cuff, but instead need
some professional team watching semantics in case someone decides that the
"speaking for myself only" bit doesn't apply because they don't want it to?
=)

This kind of dishonest behavior would seem to certainly discourage
communication.

Dishonest? Grow up, Zach. I quoted you exactly and in context. How is
that dishonest? Please don't stoop to name-calling. It is beneath
Microsoft, if not you.


The sad thing is that you're still out looking for a fight rather than
just
to help folks on the newsgroup. You're the only Microsoft employee I have
ever seen on any newsgroup who walks around with a chip on their shoulder.

Pot kettle black? =)


You spoke to me first. I had no intention of acknowledging your presense in
these groups after the bad experience that came from my first post ever to or
about you - a compliment that yielded a window and a half long outrageous
rant from you. If you weren't looking for a fight, why start one?


You are the only person in ten years of dealing with the newsgroups who's
stooped to that level. You can keep talking out of both sides of your mouth
on this if that makes you happy, but so long as you keep up *my*
non-professional in-my-spare-time goofing-around words as your citation of
the professional opinions of people, you're never going to have a moral
highground. It's just sleazy and dishonest and always will be. =)

If there is something inaccurate in the quote from you, why haven't I heard
from your or Microsoft's attorneys? To quote you dishonestly and to stand by
it even after you object would be libelous but you know that is not the case
or I would have heard from your attorneys by now. Of course your continued
attacks and calling me dishonest when you know the facts to be otherwise are
libelous and if they persist it may be you who hears from my attorney instead.


*shrug* Really, I bring it up for your own good. Do you really think that
move fosters any level of open communication? Clearly I've run across
a--holes before and will again, but only you have elevated your issues to
the point of compromising relationships that I build in an attempt to help
people.

You can justify it in your head however you want, but you'll never have a
moral highground here. (I don't claim to have one, I'm just bumbling along
trying to help people.) It's sleazy and dishonest, and I will continue to
bring it up because at some point I think you'll get past whatever internal
rage you have here and be able to move on as a better person. Again, I have
nothing against you and I don't know you. Your actions to me simply speak
really loudly here about your character. It's interesting because on the
other hand you try to help people.

Get past what, Zach? I have never attacked you personally in any way. Open
and honest discussion of the issues and concerns that people have with your
product does not constitute a personal attack except to the paranoid and
insecure. I have no anger against you. I just state the facts as I
understand them and believe them to be true. I certainly have never impuned
you as a person or your character, nor would I presume to judge a person's
character based on their participation in a newsgroup - normally. Your
participation here does often reflect more than just your interest in Windows
Media and exposes you to more scrutiny than other participants.


And I see a number of references you
make to knowledge sets I helped build/provide. *shrug*

Are you implying that I have referenced any knowledge that is your own
proprietary knowledge or to knowledge that does not exist within the public
domain and would not have existed within that domain had you never used these
newsgroups? Or are you referring to your help in building/providing this
knowledg in relation to your role in having developed portions of the
defective software that I am providing help to others with?



My whole time in the newsgroups is centered around helping people. I
specifically must care about this because it gets in the way of helping
people as I define it. I realize you don't care now, but like the Whos in
Whoville, I expect that someday your heart may grow a size. =)

You help a lot of people here, Zach. But your continued off-topic rants and
rages against anyone who has anything negative to say about Windows Media
Player don't do any good at all.

You have access to other forums to challenge me. You have responded to my
blog article where I quoted you. I left your response untouched and intact.
You have access to my personal email address. Through Microsoft, you have
access to my employment and my home address and phone numbers.

In spite of all these other options, you continue to subject the original
posters to questions with rants and rages that have nothing at all to do with
their purpose for coming to these groups. This is not at all beneficial to
users. This seems to be a personal vendetta of your own for which I can
think of no reason.

You, sir, are little more than any other troll or Internet stalker in any
other newsgroup. You would serve yourself, me, the users of these
newsgroups, and Microsoft well if you were to simply refrain from addressing
me or my posts.


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