RE: poor mp3 quality/not all songs burn

About how to burn data discs in iTunes, we eventually found it, but thank you
for pointing out the menu options necessary to burn that way.

In what you wrote, does using the computer essentials CDs, both iTunes and
WMP burn correctly? Is that the final result? Or does only iTunes burn
correctly and WMP is still making drink coasters of perfectly good CD-Rs?

BTW, it's not uncommon for a batch of media to be bad. It's likely that
either the discs you have came from a bad batch or if they used to work,
somehow the writing surface has become corrupted, making them unusable.

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"islanddragon91" wrote:

well if it were a drive problem wouldnt the distortion occur on every cd
regardless of the type? because i have burned 5 cds now on iTunes that have
all the songs i want on them and there arent any skips.

under edit (in itunes) in the preferences, and under advanced, then under
the burning tab, there is an option for audio cd, mp3, or data/DVD.

and it only works on iTunes with this new brand of exactly the same type of
cd. they were both cd-r's, exept one was memorex and one was a generic brand
called "computer essentials" i bought at walgreens. i burned the playlist
onto the 'computer essentials' cd-r, and it didnt skip at all.

just to see what would happen i burned the same playlist with the same burn
speed, same everything, but with memorex's cd-r, and it skipped. i have no
idea what happened because there arent any scratches or anything on the
memorex brand. ive decided not to mess with it anymore, because im all out of
those memorex cd's, and frankly i dont want to waste any of the cds that dont
skip.

"Mike Poz [MSFT]" wrote:

Okay, now I understand.

-You ripped the content using the MP3 codec at the highest bitrate.
-The ripped content plays just fine.
-You didn't set the burn transcode to downsample to 192kbps during a data
burn.
-Burning a data disc in iTunes at a very low burn speed works (I didn't know
iTunes could burn data discs so I checked, they call it "backup your
library"). Makes a complex disc but your MP3s are there.

Since you indicated that when you burn with iTunes at a normal you get the
same audio distortion issues, I'm beginning to think that maybe your drive is
starting to malfunction.

Do you have access to an external burner that you can plug into a USB 2.0
port and try burning there?

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"islanddragon91" wrote:

well when i rip cds, i have the file type to be mp3 not wma when ripped. so
all of them are in mp3, and when i play the cd on my sony psyc mp3 cd player,
it plays all the songs, but the problem still applies. the bitrate varies
from song to song, but most songs are 192kbps.

and yes im sure that the data cd option is selected.

how would i "navigate my burned disc to windows explorer?"

as for what you were confused about, i accidentally put 'burned' instead of
'ripped.' so just insert ripped in for burned and it should make sense.

the skipping could be a disc problem. because i have also burned cds with
iTunes, and when i do, it has all the songs on it, but it also skips. i was
using memorex cd-r's, but then i decided to try and use a different brand,
while also modifying the burn speed so it was 2x, not "fastest." it worked.
everything is seemless. however i tried to burn the same exact playlist with
the same exact options, i didnt change anything, and it skipped. that's a
mystery to me... there are no physical scratches on either brand's cd. what
do you make of this?

"Mike Poz [MSFT]" wrote:

First of all if you're running WMP 11 beta, you really need to get the
released version. It's been out for about 8 months now.

Second, if you set the transcode for Data CD burning to be downsampled to
192kbps, any files that are transcoded from higher than 192kbps to that
bitrate will be WMA, not MP3. You still aren't telling me what your SOURCE
file type is, nor the bitrate.

Third, some people mistakenly assume that since they're using MP3 files as
the source, and they're burning them to a disc, that automatically makes it
an MP3 disc, even if they have Audio CD selected as the burn type. Are you
SURE you have Data CD selected as the burn type? Because if you have Audio
CD selected as the burn type, the above downsampling setting won't be
effective.

Fourth, you didn't tell me if you looked at your burned disc in Windows
Explorer and what you saw when you got there. Did you see .CDA files or did
you see a .WPL file and a folder containing music files?

Lastly, this makes no sense -> when i play cds yet to be burned on wmp,
they skip badly, but when burned and played from the player, there arent any
skips in the song.

How can you play CDs that aren't burned? A CD is a shiny disc that goes
into the CD drive. If the disc isn't burned, it cannot be played so I really
have no idea what you're talking about in that sentence.


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"islanddragon91" wrote:

i am using windows xp, and version 11 beta. i altered the options for
burning, so the burn speed is slow, and convert to 192kbps. it says all the
songs will fit, and there is no error message of any kind. it just burns.
it is an mp3 cd that i am intending to burn, and all the files i want to burn
are in mp3 format.

well it is weird if there is no auto correct, because when i play cds yet to
be burned on wmp, they skip badly, but when burned and played from the
player, there arent any skips in the song.

"Mike Poz [MSFT]" wrote:

Can you tell me what version of Windows (2000 xp, vista, etc), and what
version of WMP you're using (9, 10, 11)?

Also are you intending to burn as an Audio CD or as a Data CD? If it's an
Audio CD, then you're not going to be able to fit a lot of tracks. On
average you'll get 18 to 20 before the disc is full. When you look at the
disc in Explorer, you'll see "Track01.CDA" etc.

If you're using 192kbps MP3s and burning them as a data disc, you'll get
roughly 125 to 130 tracks on a disc before it's full. Also if it's a data
disc you should be able to re-insert that disc into the computer and then
navigate to it in Explorer and see a WPL playlist along with a Music folder
that contains Artist folders which each contain Album folders if you're using
a recent version of WMP, if it's an older version you'll see a list of MP3
songs and the WPL playlist. Open the WPL playlist in Notepad and you should
see all the tracks on the disc listed in that WPL.

You should also be able to play that burned CD of MP3s on your computer. If
the files are intact for playback from your hard drive on your computer, they
should be intact for playback off the CD on your computer. There is no magic
"error correction" code for ripped content during playback.

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"islanddragon91" wrote:

well actually i changed the bitrate to as high as it will go; 192 i believe.
media size... do you mean size as in bites? if so, i burn roughly 650 MB onto
a disc. it says i can go up to 702 MB even though it is only a 700MB cd, and
there must be room for the text (song name, artist, etc).

i think that there is an auto correct-function on windows media player and
just about every other media player that takes out the scratches, i am
assuming, but when they are burned it takes the source file, not the file as
it sounds on the player itself, and burns that (un corrected). this is just
a hypothesis, however...

"Mike Poz [MSFT]" wrote:

Hi,

Can you provide a little bit more information for us? I'm assuming the
default setting of "copy" rather than transcode to a lower bitrate, so can
you tell me the bitrate of the content that you're burning? Also, what is
the media size that you're burning to?

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"islanddragon91" wrote:

I have tried multiple times to burn playlists on wmp. First of all, all the
songs that i want to burn act as though they are going to be burned on one
disc(all say they are complete), but when i play the mp3 cd, there are
roughly 30 songs less than i intended. also, the songs that i burn do not
skip when played on the computer, but when burned onto the mp3 cd, they
skip... even to the point of my cd player skipping the song altogether. My
cd player wont even recognize one of my cds because it is so horribly
'skippy.' any help would be greatly appreciated.
.

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