Re: Turning on Media Sharing in WMP11

Keith,

Yes things are looking much rosier now, since your last advice.
I have been able to run sharing on each of 3 networked PC's (two wireless
and one wired) and the frame can see each one. It can show the folders or
the WMP categories on each shared device.
The Kodak EX-811 will play jpegs of course, but also mp3's (thru' built-in
speakers or headphone socket) and video too. The internal memory is only
128mb but it will read a variety of memory cards direct and a USB stick. The
USB allows direct connection to a PC also.
The only remaining problem for me is why will it not play any of my AVI
files and not all MPG's either, when it is supposed to play MPEG1 and 4, AVI
and MOV.

I believe it forms quite a reasonable network media device. Tho' it only
runs on mains power, the screen is 8" diag (the EX-1011 is 10") and the
built-in speakers are quite small. But it seems to be quite adaptable and
flexible if only I can find out how it should play AVI's.

I am not sure how you could get it to see to access a PC on another domain.
But it sounds a neat idea if possible.

Thanks again for getting me over that hurdle.

Nigel



"Keith" <Keith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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WOW that's fantastic! It is a funny thing because sometimes spyware or
something along those lines will shut it down and sometimes a program to
stop
spyware will shut it down. It's a damed if you do and damed if you don't
kind
of thing. lol

This is off-topic, but I was thinking of getting one of those photo frames
for my parents. Do they work well? What kind do you have?

Maybe they have this already, but if not, it would be a cool thing to
invent. If I could run a server like Media Player on my computer that has
my
photos on it, then my parents would have the picture frame at their house.
The frame could be a network appliance that hooks to their home network
which, in return, connects to the internet. You could then connect their
picture frame to my server and the frame could view the pictures remotely.
In
fact, you could hook up to more than one server. So, they could connect to
me
and my brother and the frame could read the pictures from both of us and
randomly switch all day long and be updated with new pictures in real-time
as
my brother or I add new pictures to our servers.

That would be a great thing for people who have family members in the
military or scattered all over the world. Mom and dad could be at home
while
their kids updated their servers with the lates baby pictures of the
grandkids and stuff like that. It would be like getting a gift everyday, a
surprise to see what new picture might come up next.

Of course the bad thing is that some pervert would figure out a way to use
it as a porn device like everything else seems to become. All this
facinating
technology and the best use some can find for it is to see naked people.
LOL
you have to laugh.


"Nigel Andrews" wrote:

Keith,

Ah ha that did the trick!

Turning on SSDP (it was disabled as was uPnP) to Manual and then UPnP
also
to Manual made everything light up!

Thanks

I guess I need to set those two services to Auto or I'll be needing to
restart them each time.

I now need to try that trick on my other n/w computers and see if they
will
also share with the photo frame even though some are not wireless.
The wireless laptop appears to be sharing direct to the photo frame and
not
going through the router.

I am very grateful to you as I was disappearing of ever getting it to
work.

It makes a mockery of the simple Kodak instructions which assume all
this.

Thanks muchley
Nigel



"Nigel Andrews" <nandrews2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Keith,

Thanks for the 'encouragement'.

I will look for the SSDP Discovery Service and see if that is started
and
if not start it.

I will let you know what happens.

Thanks again

Nigel


"Keith" <Keith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Well, the good news is there is the problem. Windows Media Networking
used
the uPnP to run on the network.

I forgot to also mention the SSDP Discovery Service. That needs to be
running for uPnP to run. You will probably want to set a restore point
first,
and then check the permissions on that service too.

The difference is that when I had the problem, the play button wasn't
grayed
out to start the uPnP service. I just kept getting a message that it
couldn't
start because a dependant service couldn't start.

So, your problem might be a little different than mine, but we are
definitly
on the right track.

"Nigel Andrews" wrote:

Keith,

Checking thru' the items you kindly listed I find the uPnP service
was
not
started and would not start (the 'play' button is greyed out).
I checked in the properties for it and yet those items mentioned were
already O.K.

So I am stuck at that point. With no changes to apply and yet the
service
not starting.

Can you give me a bit more help as I am in the dark in this area.

Thank-you

Nigel


"Keith" <Keith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hello Nigel. Usually there is a built in firewall in a router and
is
usually
on by default. If there is a firewall, or NAT, built into your
router,
I
have
found it better to use that than a software firewall like the one
in
XP
SP2
or Zone Alarm. But, that is your personal preference.

Anyway, if you are sure that your ports are open and Zone Alarm is
your
ony
firewall, then you will have to check the status of a couple of
services.

I am assuming you have XP SP2. Go to Control Panel > Performance
and
Mainenance > Administrative Tools > Services. Scroll down to the
Universal
Plug and Play Device Host Service. Check the status to see if it is
started
or not and that the startup type is manual.

If it is started then check and make sure the Windows Media Player
Network
Sharing service is started as well. If both are started, then it
has
to be
a
problem with your ports or firewall. Check the documentation of
your
router
and make sure there really is no firewall. Sometimes they might not
call
it a
firewall and say something about NAT or name translation. Either
way,
if
there is a section in your router configuration that gives you the
ability
to
do port forwading, then you have to set your ports there and turn
off
Zone
Alarm.

If the services are stopped, then try to start them manually by
highlighting
them and hitting the play button at the top of the dialog. You will
have
to
start the universal plug and play (uPnP) before starting the
Windows
Media
Player Sharing.

If uPnP does not start, then right click on the service and go to
properties
and then the LogOn tab. Make sure the "This Account" radio button
is
selected
and it says "NT AUTHORITY\LocalService" in the box next to that. I
don't
think you have to mess with the password part. After you Apply
changes
and
exit out that dialog, try to start the uPnP service again. If it
starts
then
go back to Media PLayer and start the Sharing service. This time it
should
work and the button won't just pop back up again.

Let me know if it works.
"Nigel Andrews" wrote:

Keith,

Thanks for that I assume those need to be turned on in the
firewall
only?

I have a ZoneAlarm s/w firewall, but no firewall in the Netgear
router.

In fact the WMP11 Help says the following need to be turned on:-
1900
UDP
local subnet only

2869
TCP
local subnet only

10243
TCP
local subnet only

10280-10284
UDP
local subnet only



I have done so, as I say in ZA, in the Trusted Zone, setting all
in
both
the
outgoing and incoming connections.

Nigel


"Keith" <Keith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hey guys I had the same problem. The trick is to open a couple
of
ports
on
your router or firewall.

You need to open port s:

2869 TCP
1900 UDP

These need to be opend locally on the computer that is running
WMP
only.

For instance, in my Linksys router I have configured :

Start Port: 0
End Port: 2869
Protocal: TCP
IP Address: 192.168.1.103 (the IP of the computer running WMP
Server)

Start Port: 0
End Port: 1900
Protocal: UDP
IP Address: 192.168.1.103

Also, I remember having to give permissions for uPnP to run. I
can't
remember off had what the proceadure was, but I had to give the
Local
Machine
or Local something group permissions to start the uPnP service.

Look up uPnP Service Permissions or something like that on
Google.
Sorry I
can't be more specific, but the informations is out there and
not
too
hard
to
find on your own. Good luck!
"Nigel Andrews" wrote:

In WMP11 when I select Library/Media Sharing and check 'share
my
media'
then
OK after a few seconds the OK returns but nothing has changed!
I have selected (I think) the ports it requires in ZoneAlarm.

Can anyone say why the Sharing doesn't even seem to set up?

Thank-you

Nigel
















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