Re: Media Player 11 Codec Plugins On Windows Vista Business

This is a sort of "bump" and support for the interest of getting a
Vista-based dvd decoder as an add-on.

I installed 4 different dvd-such-and-such, all of which failed to play or
either gave me BSOD:
AsusDVD-XP, ElsaMovie-2000, WinDVD-Creative, ULead MovieFactory 3SE. All
came bundled with different hardware purchases over the years.

I had seen the link "DVD Playback Options for Windows"
(http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/download/dvdcodecs.aspx) and
have been waiting for a Vista link to become available.
I even posted a while back regarding it. I just figured if they had it
included in Premium and Ultimate that a plug-in would already be ready.

Nathan

"zachd [MSFT]" wrote:


Speaking for myself only, as usual---

There are fixed costs associated with providing that. The average Business
user is probably not going to be at their desk watching DVDs. For the
scenarios where people need the Microsoft MPEG2/DVD codecs in non-Premium
SKUs, it will be available in due time as an available add-on (I believe as
a purchasable add-on from third parties). A lot of people are doing a lot
of things behind the curtains: right now the word would be patience.

The key focus really has to be on delivering the primary SKUs properly:
getting add-ons and such delivered (such as the hyper-critical Media Restore
Pack) is the immediate *next* task.

Generally if you're getting a system with a DVD drive, it's going to come
with a DVD decoder anyways - solving that 'redundancy' is a very interesting
situation, but the nut is that if you have a decoder now it probably has its
own player software- if so and it's Vista compatible, you're in business,
and if not, talk to the vendor.

Otherwise: patience remains the key for right now.

Regards,
-Zach
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See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
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"Mr. D" <MrD@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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As an IT professional, I completely support Neal's assessment:

"the fact that one doesn't seem to be readily available is an inexcusable
oversight on Microsoft's part".

The key word is INEXCUSABLE.

Hey Bill, aren't business users as important as home users? Fix this.

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"Travis" wrote:

Neil,

Thanks for taking a shot, but I'm going to have to keep "plugging-along"
even further.

I am painfully aware that a DVD codec did not come with Media Player 11
in
Vista Business, or I wouldn't be up here on this forum, desperately
seeking
one; the fact that one doesn't seem to be readily available is an
inexcusable
oversight on Microsoft's part.

Don't give me a new car and then say I'm going to have to go out on my
own
and find a battery for it to make it run, please.

I did indeed download the DecCheck app and it showed that all of 2 codecs
(out of the 8 which came with and were installed by the Roxio program)
were
compatible, but as I mentioned, they only work with the Sonic Cine Player
included in Roxio Easy Media Creator 9, not with Media Player 11 - it is
apparently still as dead as a doornail until it gets its "own" codec
plugin.

That's my point: I want to use Media Player 11 (which I'm used to) and
not
have to depend on some 3rd-rate, 3rd-party media player to play my
videos.

Also, it's worth noting that while DecCheck flagged these 2 lonely codecs
as
"MCE Compatible" it did not list them as being "MP 10 Compatible" - I
think
it's also suspicious that the DecCheck program makes no mention
whatsoever
about Media Player 11, meaning it has not been updated in a long time.

As for the NVIDIA decoder being Vista-compatible, I can only refer you to
these 2 links from their own Website (read the first sentence at the top
of
the page under "System Requirements" for the 1st link):

http://www.nvidia.com/object/dvd_decoder_sysreqs.html

Now this one:

http://nvidia.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/nvidia.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=117&p_created=1099523845&p_sid=JkpqsLti&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9NyZwX3Byb2RzPTQmcF9jYXRzPTAmcF9wdj0xLjQmcF9jdj0mcF9zZWFyY2hfdHlwZT1hbnN3ZXJzLnNlYXJjaF9mbmwmcF9wYWdlPTEmcF9zZWFyY2hfdGV4dD1WaXN0YQ**&p_li=&p_topview=1

Or simply read this (Answer ID 117), direct from NVIDIA's Knowledgbase:

---------------------------------------------------------
Question: Is the NVIDIA Purevideo Decoder software supported under
Microsoft Windows XP 64-bit edition, Microsoft Windows Server 2003 64-bit
edition, Windows Vista 32-bit editon, or Windows Vista 64-bit Edition?

Answer: The NVIDIA Purevideo DVD Decoder software is designed to be used
under Microsoft Windows XP 32-bit edition family and Microsoft Windows
2000.
It is NOT supported under any other operating system, such as Microsoft
Windows XP 64-Bit Edition, Windows Vista 32-bit Edition or Windows Vista
64-bit edition. There are no plans at this time to support additional
operating systems at this time.
-----------------------------------------------------------

The bottom line is this: Since more and more people are compelled to do
CBT
(Comptuer Based Training) at their desk and all such programs now come on
a
DVD, simply saying a machine with Vista Business on it has no need of a
DVD-capable Windows Media Player (and hence no DVD codec available for
it) is
a non-starter. And God forbid somebody with a Home Office should ever
want
to play a movie on their Vista Business computer occasionally!

So, the question still remains (and somebody out there MUST have the
answer), where can one obtain a DVD codec for Media Player 11 on a
"non-Entertainment" version of Vista?

If all else fails, why can't I (and countless other people) simply
download
and install the same one Microsoft makes available in their other
versions of
Vista? It just can't be that big a deal.

Either that or tell me where I can go get the thing commercially; I don't
care, I just want Media Player 11 inside of this high-dollar operating
system
I just bought to work like it did in XP Professional (yes, another
so-called
"business" version of the operating system, where DVDs played
flawlessly).

Thanks, and standing by for a truly workable solution to the problem.

As they used to say on the X Files, "The Truth is out there somewhere"

"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote:

On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 01:27:01 -0800, Travis
<Travis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I have a new Dell Dimension 9200 with the highest-end NVIDIA card they
offer
(GeForce 7900 GS) with Vista Business and Media Player 11 (of course).

I'm pretty sure Vista Business doesn't come with a DVD decoder
preinstalled, though it comes on Home Premium and Ultimate. I guess
the idea is that business computers aren't intended as entertainment
devices, though obviously training DVDs come under "business" ;-)

I just installed Roxio Easy Media Creator 9 (the latest version, which
is
Vista-compatible) and when I try to play a garden-variety commercial DVD
it
loads and plays fine in the Roxio/Sonic Cine Player which came with EMC
9.

However, I want it to play on Media Player 11, which it won't do due to
the
proper codec plugin not being installed.

You can confirm that the Roxio DVD decoder is not WMP compatible by
running the DecCheck program from Microsoft (which also allows you to
set preferred decoder as well as showing which installed ones "work")

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=DE1491AC-0AB6-4990-943D-627E6ADE9FCB&displaylang=en

is that all the major vendors there (my preferred one is NVIDA, since
that's
the video card I have) say their software is for use on XP only and is
not
Vista compatible, even though I got there through a link inside of the
Vista

NVidia's Purevideo decoder works just fine in Vista :
http://www.nvidia.com/object/dvd_decoder.html

There was a rumor that Microsoft actually had one which they provide in
other versions of Vista, but I can't find any additional information on
how
to get ahold of it.

HTH
Cheers - Neil
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Digital Media MVP : 2004-2007
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs
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