Re: WMP10 / WMA9.0

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From: Ian_m (ian_m_at_bvmltd.co.uk)
Date: 12/16/04 

Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 08:31:04 -0800

>You'd need them to update their
> code, and if they're confused they'd want to contact their relevant MS
> contact.

I contacted Panasonic UK about unplayable MP10 WMA files on my not very old
CQRDP383N, are there any firmware up-dates? They replied no. Asked if they
planned any, they said no.

I then asked how do I create WMA files under MP10 that play and have
received no reply, and that was mid November.

Currently converting using MP3 @ 160kps on my main PC, which plays fine and
dandy and some conversions via my wifes portable that is currently running
MP9 and that plays fine as well.

Ian
>
> Just to follow up...
>
> I was incorrect, this isn't the synchronized bit - I believe it is because
> the header/padding size for the generated ASF (WMA) files is larger (this
> provides pretty solid performance benefits) and the older decks don't handle
> this correctly. This comes from the SDK level, not the decoder. This is
> not unique to WMP10, and would happen with older versions of the player as
> well if you inserted any non-trivial amount of data into the header.
>
> ^-- That's my understanding at least. This would require an update from the
> relevant deck vendor in order to address, IIRC. This is not something that
> you or I would be able to handle ourselves. You'd need them to update their
> code, and if they're confused they'd want to contact their relevant MS
> contact.
>
> -Zach
> --
> (speaking for myself and doing this in my free time)
> See http://www.zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
> Following up to your post with the resolution is good netiquette.
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
> Now Playing: "We Have Come to Bless the House" by "Severed Heads" in WMP10.
> --
>
> "Josef" <Josef@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:518F69A2-E854-4A0E-AFDA-125CC896B419@microsoft.com...
> > >called pioneer and they said
> >> it was to do with the Digital rights Management! i think this thread
> >> indicates otherwise!
> >
> > Correct. The guy from Pioneer was probably referring to Copy Protect
> > button
> > in Options dialog - if that one is set then WMA becomes encrypted & it
> > won't
> > work in the car. But this problem has nothing to do with encryption and
> > rather with (speculation) some block head programmer at MS deciding to
> > 'fix'
> > the bug and make things 'right' which in turn killed the compatibility
> > with
> > all WMA decoders out there which had it 'wrong' - So much for "Plays for
> > Sure".
> >
> >>is there any microsoft solution? i've tried rolling back
> >> to wmp9(it worked fine before 10!) and it no longer works either!
> >
> > Isn't that amazing? Firts it was IE that became part of OS, now a bloddy
> > music player also has to be in OS and once you 'upgrade' you're screwed -
> > all
> > this coming from top software company in the world, unbeliveable.....
> >
> >>any other suggestions?
> >
> > sorry, no. I've given up on looking for the mysterious 'synchronized
> > flag' -
> > couldn't find any info on internet and also not in WMA SDK docs.... I've
> > given up on WMA forever and went back to MP3: It works on laptop, it works
> > in
> > car, it works on iPod, it works bloody everywhere: now THAT is what I call
> > 'Plays for Sure'!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Josef
> >
> > "bish" wrote:
> >
> >> josef, sounds like you and i have the same problem! i have the pioneer
> >> deh
> >> 7500, got it less than a year ago. since upgrading to wmp 10 i can no
> >> longer
> >> make compilations for the car unless they are in mp3 (which works ok)
> >> thing
> >> is most of my musicis in the (wmp10) wma format! called pioneer and they
> >> said
> >> it was to do with the Digital rights Management! i think this thread
> >> indicates otherwise! is there any microsoft solution? i've tried rolling
> >> back
> >> to wmp9(it worked fine before 10!) and it no longer works either! thanks
> >> to
> >> zachd for that bit of insight, any other suggestions? ideas? thanks in
> >> advance.
> >>
> >> "Josef" wrote:
> >>
> >> > > Hm. I happen to know that that deck can't handle the Synchronized
> >> > > bit in
> >> > > the header
> >> >
> >> > Where in the header is this 'Synchronized' bit? I'm tempted to try and
> >> > change it manually.
> >> >
> >> > I have the same problem: everything worked ok with WMP 9 but nothing
> >> > works
> >> > with WMP 10. Car stereo is Pioneer DEH 5500. I'm amazed how MS &
> >> > Pioneer (I
> >> > don't care whose to blame) can treat their customers so poorly...
> >> >
> >> > Cheers, Josef
> >> >
> >> > "zachd [ms]" wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > > Hm. I happen to know that that deck can't handle the Synchronized
> >> > > bit in
> >> > > the header (I've got the P940MP). WMP8/9 unset it when it shouldn't
> >> > > have
> >> > > been to coax the decoder used in that deck to keep working, but
> >> > > Naveen is
> >> > > right here. I don't know if it's the synchronized bit that's
> >> > > frustrating
> >> > > your deck, but that'd be my top suspicion.
> >> > >
> >> > > -Zach
> >> > > --
> >> > > (speaking for myself and doing this in my free time)
> >> > > See http://www.nwlink.com/~zachd/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP
> >> > > info.
> >> > > Following up to your post with the resolution is good netiquette.
> >> > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> >> > > rights.
> >> > > Now Playing: "When She's Gone" by "Electronic" in Windows Media
> >> > > Player.
> >> > > --
> >> > >
> >> > > "Rob Swain" <newsgroup@robswain.co.uk> wrote in message
> >> > > news:10b401c49986$3215bf90$a501280a@phx.gbl...
> >> > > >I am also having this problem. I have a Pioneer DEH-
> >> > > > P8400MP stereo and have been happily playing media
> >> > > > encoded by MP9 for a year. I have tried media encoded by
> >> > > > MP10 and it will not play.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Any suggestions appreciated.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Regards,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Rob.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >>-----Original Message-----
> >> > > >>WMA 9.0, and WMA 9.1 use same WMA Standard syntax. So
> >> > > > WMA9.1 files should be
> >> > > >>playable on that car stereo. If not, that would indicate
> >> > > > a bug in the WMA
> >> > > >>decoder implementation on that stereo. Please try out,
> >> > > > and post your findings
> >> > > >>in this group, along with the make/model information on
> >> > > > the player.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>Thanks
> >> > > >>Naveen Thumpudi [MS]
> >> > > >>-----
> >> > > >>This posting is provided AS IS with no warranties and
> >> > > > confers no rights.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>"Steve F" wrote:
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>> I recently installed WMP10 and I'm very impressed with
> >> > > > the new interface.
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> One of the other MS products I use, however, is the
> >> > > > MP3 Audio Converter (The
> >> > > >>> full version from MS Plus!). Unfortuantely, with
> >> > > > WMP10 being bundled with
> >> > > >>> the new WMA9.1 codec, that is the only version of WMA
> >> > > > that the Converter
> >> > > >>> will now output.
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> I use the converter to convert my MP3s so I can fit
> >> > > > them all on a CD that my
> >> > > >>> car stereo can read (It has an onboard MP3/WMA
> >> > > > decoder). The stereo,
> >> > > >>> however, can only read up through 9.0. Is there any
> >> > > > way for me to keep
> >> > > >>> WMP10 installed, but have the converter use the 9.0
> >> > > > codec? Perhaps a
> >> > > >>> registry entry that I'm not seeing?
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> Any help would be appreciated.
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> -Steve
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>.
> >> > > >>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
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