Re: Cant copy music onto my mp3 player- Error C00D11AA
From: Chris Lanier [MVP] (cal2002a_at_hotmail.NOSPAM.com)
Date: 07/07/04
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Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 18:55:37 -0500
I still don't get, go figure. ;) Anyway, It would be great if you would
shoot an e-mail to Napster (I had already) ad ask them to update their list
to include more players that are supported by the device maker.
-- Chris Lanier Microsoft MVP - Digital Media --- "sprite8legner" <sprite8legner@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:2AB9D24B-6351-4BD6-A12E-27C066B5D68B@microsoft.com... > Good reply, Iriver. Seriously- that's not sarcasm. > > As for the "deaf" comment... I was implying a double-meaning. 1) That Chris was not "hearing" me when I was telling him it works, and 2) That Chris would not "hear" the music that I, or anyone for that matter, have downloaded onto the portible device. He said that I could not hear the music on the device-- I was saying, "So, what was I listening to? Dead air?" Make sense now? Don't hurt yourself thinking about it. > > > "Iriver" wrote: > > > the device does support the files, yet iriver doesnt put it on their website. so chris is right that iriver is not really saying the device will work or not. on the other hand sprite8legner is right that it will work, but the patch should have no effect on it. if it does, great. good for you, 2 thumbs up, 5 stars. depending on the player, wmp does not have to be used, iriver will tell you this, and they are wrong. mmj can do it. > > > > and, sprite, being deaf would not impact reading skillz, well maybe for you it does,but whatever. > > > > "sprite8legner" wrote: > > > > > Are you deaf? I am certainly not-- and I'm telling you... THE MUSIC IS ON THE MP3 PLAYER! > > > > > > How sad that YOU are so shallow and into yourself that you can't read that and understand what I'm saying! The player works fine! The music downloads fine (now with the patch-- call it whatever you want, babe). Why buy a new player when everything works perfectly? > > > > > > Please, people. Don't be fooled by Saturday Night Live impersonators... "MOVE!!!" ;-) > > > > > > I'm going to go listen to my downloaded, paid-for-from-Napster music on my new portable device. Rock on, everyone! > > > > > > And Chris? Get OVER yourself! Please. It's just sad. > > > > > > > > > "Chris Lanier [MVP]" wrote: > > > > > > > Anyone looking to know if their player will work can goto > > > > http://www.napster.com/compatible_devices/ (The page that sprite8 is talking > > > > about) and will see that the "hoops" are just not their. Napster links to > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/9Series/GettingStarted//Personalization/CoolDevices.asp > > > > which also back's up the point of this player not supporting the files. You > > > > will notice that the player is not listed. > > > > > > > > Sucks when people have to look right, because they don;t know what they are > > > > talking about. This makes bad reading for others. > > > > > > > > btw, anyone who could read would know that patch does affect this aspect of > > > > WMP or the player. All the patch does it as follows. "When you copy music > > > > media files between Microsoft Windows Media Player and a supported portable > > > > device, copy operations may take longer to perform as more items are added > > > > to the Media Library." > > > > > > > > But, on the bright side, sprite8 now knows that a new player will need to be > > > > purchased to listen to that music. :0 > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Chris Lanier > > > > Microsoft MVP - Digital Media > > > > --- > > > > "sprite8legner" <sprite8legner@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > > news:44DA7DB0-95FC-48E9-A606-D5DD800464C9@microsoft.com... > > > > > Mmmm... listen to that great "pay-on-demand" music from my iRiver... I'm > > > > LOVIN' IT!! No new device for me, baby. That was not good advice, Chris. > > > > > > > > > > All-- CONTACT THE DEVICE MANUFACTURERS. Thankfully, iRiver had an 800 > > > > number I could call. > > > > > > > > > > But I will say this-- it WAS Occum's Razor after all-- Microsoft was the > > > > problem. ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Chris Lanier [MVP]" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > No. Right from iRivers website FAQ about your player it says "The iFP > > > > > > players will only play back MP3 and non-protected WMA files." <-Any > > > > file > > > > > > you download from Napster is a protected WMA file. > > > > > > > > > > > > It has little to nothing to do with WMP, the device can not play > > > > protected > > > > > > WMA's at all. There is no need to use any software programs (WMA or > > > > > > otherwise) to try and transfer the files if the player can not decode > > > > them. > > > > > > > > > > > > The "hoops" would be players that support the playback of the files > > > > after > > > > > > you upgrade the firmware on the device. iRiver says nothing about a > > > > > > firmware update for your model player. It is also not listed on their > > > > "DRM > > > > > > page" which is http://www.iriveramerica.com/drm/. Only the players > > > > listed > > > > > > there can be upgraded to play the files. > > > > > > > > > > > > If you would like to play these files on a portable device, you must > > > > > > purchase a new device. There are no "hoops" other than that. :\ > > > > > > > > > > > > If you feel Napster is right about the issue, then you need to contact > > > > > > iRiver about it as they suggest on their website. > > > > > > "Please note that if any issues are experienced with these pay-for > > > > > > downloaded songs, it is very important that iRiver be contacted. The > > > > service > > > > > > providers (music download sites) will not be able to offer any > > > > assistance > > > > > > for your iRiver player when using it in combination with their music. " > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Chris Lanier > > > > > > Microsoft MVP - Digital Media > > > > > > --- > > > > > > "sprite8legner" <sprite8legner@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in > > > > message > > > > > > news:BF42BC39-C5FF-465D-A249-87F4F9B76829@microsoft.com... > > > > > > > Chris, > > > > > > > Here is the rub. Both Napster and iRiver confirm that the device is > > > > > > "capable" of receiving these files... but the device is not necessarily > > > > > > "compatible" as-is. Several areas of the iRiver support site that you > > > > and I > > > > > > have both been reading explain that these files are not downloadable > > > > UNLESS > > > > > > they "go through" the WMP. There are hoops to be jumped through here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Napster explains that several devices MAY BE compatible, but also > > > > require > > > > > > some hoops to be jumped through as well. I feel like I have followed > > > > the > > > > > > trail of hoops form both sources and am still having trouble. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Chris Lanier [MVP]" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What? :| The device is problem, both according to iRiver and > > > > Napster. > > > > > > You > > > > > > > > just said "..according to Napster, is not compatible" - That means > > > > you > > > > > > can't > > > > > > > > use it with files download from them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > IRvier too, says "...When WMA have been protected within Windows > > > > Media > > > > > > > > Player, the files are then unable to be copied and sent to the iFP > > > > > > player." > > > > > > > > Source: http://www.iriveramerica.com/support/iFP_FAQ.aspx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ockham's Razor seems to apply here, no? Both people are telling you > > > > the > > > > > > > > same, the solution is to not copy DRM-enable (i.e Protected) files > > > > to > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > player, it does *not* support them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Chris Lanier > > > > > > > > Microsoft MVP - Digital Media > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > "Sprite8" <Sprite8@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > > > > > > news:B54C147D-A3BE-44B5-BCE3-F5D918387F90@microsoft.com... > > > > > > > > > I, too, have a portible device that, according to Napster, is not > > > > > > > > compatible. Mine is an iRiver iFT-890... which is brand new on the > > > > > > market. > > > > > > > > According to the iRiver website, my player is supposed to be able to > > > > > > receive > > > > > > > > copied MP3s and .wma files straight from the Windows Media Player. > > > > The > > > > > > > > Windows Media Player will identify the iRiver device, then I check > > > > all > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > music I wish to transfer.... then, ka-blewie! This error message > > > > pops > > > > > > up > > > > > > > > (C00D11AA) and the WMP shuts down. Seems to me that the problem is > > > > on > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > Windows side of the issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, Chris, if you're going to respond to this, I am asking that > > > > you > > > > > > > > consider what I have explained to you and not give me Ockham's Razor > > > > > > (the > > > > > > > > simplest answer is usually the right answer, for those who don't > > > > know > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > that means), as it is not the device that is the problem... both > > > > > > according > > > > > > > > to Napster and according to iRiver. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Chris Lanier [MVP]" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's the player doesn't support DRM-enabled then you can not > > > > > > transfer > > > > > > > > them. > > > > > > > > > > The FAQ's at Napster explain this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Chris Lanier > > > > > > > > > > Microsoft MVP - Digital Media > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > > > "soccah" <soccah@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > > news:B58C1C43-8A62-4500-9CEE-366C95A38E3D@microsoft.com... > > > > > > > > > > > Error Message- "Windows Media Player cannot copy the file > > > > because > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > license associated with the file restricts it." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have Windows Media Player 9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Operating System- Windows XP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was trying to copy music onto my mp3 player (Creative MuVo > > > > which > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > time isnt compatible with napster), napster said i could use > > > > Media > > > > > > > > Player 9 > > > > > > > > > > to copy the music I had purchased from them as a way to get my > > > > music > > > > > > > > onto my > > > > > > > > > > mp3 player. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Help would be appreciated, Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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