Re: Display items of a .asx playlist within Media Player 9

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From: Scott F (ScottF_at_discussions.microsoft.com)
Date: 02/05/05 

Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 11:25:02 -0800

Please see my latest post in the thread I created starting with "CHALLANGE".
WOW, a solution ... and look no further than Microsoft's own MSN for a great
solution very similar to the Feedroom http://video.msn.com/video/p.htm?rf=

Sure looks like a Flash front end ... I defer to the experts in coding !!
How is this created and how difficult to clone something like this Neil ??

Of course the logical thing would be for Microsoft to sell it or make it a
Windows Media developer component ??

This SOLVES ours needs ... at least we now know Microsoft can do it for MSN
at least.

Scott F

Scott F

"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote:

> Yes I did read it but it involves some practical difficulties. Most of
> these are solved using systems like you have on Sourceforge, but
> they're still there and need to be considered :
>
> You need a 'sandbox' environment, with sufficient hosting capacity to
> test out many of these scenarios online in a real environment. You
> also need the capability to test the scenarios across many platforms -
> Mac, PC, pocket PC - and many operating systems, new and legacy.
>
> So you're looking at dedicated testing labs to ensure any developed
> scenarios work across the board.
>
> Also you need to be able to build in flexibility sufficient to cope
> with common and not-so-common desires and requirements, even stuff
> nobody's thought of yet, without breaking backwards compatibility. Me
> and Marcus pretty much did this with the PEAR::Quicktime class, but
> it's not easy to do, and the more people on board the more possibility
> for breaks and incompatibilities - the project then needs to be
> managed and overseen.
>
> So we're basically talking about a full software and concurrency
> control environment for developing such applications. None of this
> comes cheap, in terms of hardware/hosting costs, or even in terms of
> time for the volunteers.
>
> Then, how do you establish a 'common ownership' of a project like
> this, so that people don't feel their work is being exploited or
> possible even in the USA, *patented* by large organisations without
> any remuneration back to them or the project as a whole.
>
> You know I'm personally quite happy to give up a certain amount of
> time t help people on the newsgroups (many people aren't), but stuff
> which requires 20-30 hours development and testing time, well we're
> starting to think in terms of commercial contracts and 'paying the
> rent' here, aren't we ?
>
> So how do we begin to discuss these possible drawbacks to what you're
> proposing ?
>
>
> Cheers - Neil
>
>
>
> On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 07:59:03 -0800, "Scott F"
> <ScottF@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >Please read my rather long post (lots of discovery in our quest for a
> >solution) on 1/30/2005 regarding a "Challange" to all of us. We have the
> >same need to allow a playlist selection with WM 9/10 and detailed our
> >findings after a lot of searching. I have 2 posts only because some of the
> >URLs didn't paste correctly - look at these examples like the Feedroom,
> >anyone else like us dedicated to WM 9/10 like to display something like this
> >on their websites ??
> >
> >As the KB article states "You cannot expand playlists that are located on a
> >Web server. However, you can move through the playlist by using the Next
> >button and the Previous button." Compared to Flash playlist control and
> >selection, this is simply unacceptable.
> >
> >There are a lot of extremely talented people reading these threads and I am
> >hoping that we can create a really WOW type solution !!
> >
> >Scott F
> >
> >"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote:
> >
> >> It depends if the user is embedding the player - if it's embedded you
> >> can use scripting to extract the playlist entries and display them on
> >> the page. The only way I can think of with the standalone player is to
> >> install a skin which does this display step for you.
> >>
> >> Cheers - Neil
> >>
> >> On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 16:11:48 -0800, "zachd [ms]"
> >> <zachd@nomailplz.online.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >This is true. Remote .WMx playlists do not show their contents for content
> >> >security reasons. I believe there is a KB article on this by-design
> >> >behavior.
> >> >
> >> >-Zach
> >> >--
> >> >(speaking for myself and doing this in my free time)
> >> >See http://www.zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
> >> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
> >>
> >>
>
>

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