Re: wmv streaming

anonymous_at_discussions.microsoft.com
Date: 10/08/04

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    Thanks for your help smith,
    unfortunately all this stuff is beyond my control or expertise, but I'll pass the
    information onto the administrators of the clients website.

    Just to clarify, our wmv is 'downloading' and so it appears that there isn't
    anything we can do in our export settings to specify any download or
    progressive download actions. If this is the case then as I understand any
    issues need to be resolved with the deliveery of the wmv and not the wmv
    file itself? Please teel me if I'm wrong.

    >-----Original Message-----
    >The symantics of "Servers" does get confusing, but it's tradition to be
    >confusing.
    >
    >Here's a simple way to look at it. Forgive me if I overexplain, I don't
    >mean to offend.
    >
    >You know how you need a "Web Server" to get html and asp pages out to
    >people's browsers over the internet? That "Server" is really a "Service"
    >On Windows server computers that "Service" is called "Internet Information
    >Service" or "IIS" for short. Other operating systems use Apache or other
    >"Web Servers" .. which are really "Services running on a Server Operating
    >System"
    >
    >If you put a Zip file in an IIS virtual directory and give someone a link to
    >it, such as "http:\\mysite\myfiles\ZippedFile.zip you know that they can
    >type that in their browser and the file will start to download. That's what
    >the request to the Web Service will initiate.
    >
    >Same thing happens when you put a WMV or WMA file in a *Web Server*
    Virtual
    >Directory. You give someone the link and the file starts to *download*.
    >Downloading is what requests for files do when managed by a "Web Server
    >Service" such as IIS.
    >
    >The media player may start playing as it buffers the parts of the download
    >but until it gets the whole file it might be a choppy experience. That's
    >because it's a download, there's a fancy name of the fact that media player
    >will try to do it's choppy best to at least show you something, that term is
    >"Progressive Downloading" , but it's still a download and it's not
    >"Streaming".
    >
    >
    >"Streaming" simply requires a different Server Service to be turned on.
    >This type of service does management of passing the special audio and
    video
    >data packets to clients (the end client software being Media Player, not a
    >text-based borwser). On Windows that Service is called "Windows Media
    >Services", and it only runs on Windows2000Server and
    Windows2003Server.
    >
    >To get real streaming, with it's near-instant access to any point of the
    >file, fast forwarding and rewind and so on., you have to have that exact
    >service turned on on the server. And you need to put your file in
    something
    >called a "Publishing Point" which is similar to the concept of a Virtual
    >Directory for a Web Service.
    >
    >If I'm confusing you, trust me... It's really not all that hard to do once
    >you see the screens for it on the machine. Matter of fact, it's easier for
    >some people then setting up a Web Server Service. I was amazed at how
    easy
    >it was the very first time I started it on 2003Server.
    >
    >Here's my advice, take it as you will:
    >
    >So if you can talk to the people running your server hardware and you find
    >out if they are running Windows Server Operating Systems then maybe you
    can
    >get them to turn on this optional Service for you. It's worth asking. It's
    >not hard and they can "Stream" over HTTP protocol by simply using a
    >different port from the one used by the Web Server Service.
    >
    >Before you talk to them, I think you might get a big help from a certain
    >book. There really are only 3 books about Windows Media Services
    Streaming
    >so it's hard to go too wrong, but this particular one should be everybody's
    >first one.
    >
    >Here's the book: "Windows Media Series 9 By Example" by Nels Johnson.
    >
    >It may look a little "amature" because the cover is an ugly orange, but I
    >assure you that it's better than it looks and you can read it and be fluent
    >in the basics in a few nights. If you're really in a rush buy it and just
    >read the introduction and first three chapters ... that's the real important
    >stuff. Wiht that you can use the right language when you talk to the
    >server people.
    >
    >robert smith
    >kirkland, wa
    >www.smithvoice.com
    >
    ><anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    >news:1a1101c4ac04$8f95c3a0$a601280a@phx.gbl...
    >
    >>>>>>>I don't know what sort of server it is. it's on a clients server
    which
    >we have
    >no control over and there is no chance of changing the situation. Currently
    >the wmv file is linked quite simply and sits in a folder on the sites root
    >folder, nothing special happening there.
    >
    >We've provided the content but don't have any real expertise on the
    delivery
    >method of streaming content on the web. As my previous post said the
    >client has an issue about the streamng that they're encountering, and I just
    >need some information on what's can be done to alter it, whether it is to
    do
    >with the wmv file we've produced or if it's something out of our control
    >(server, player settings, etc).
    >
    >
    >.
    >

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