Re: DVD to WMV -- Success...

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From: jquiet (tester,testingplace,net)
Date: 05/07/04 

Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 14:23:27 -0700

Right in all assumptions. I suppose you are in IFO mode? As you click on
each stream there is a check box for demux, direct copy, also confirm that
direct stream copy is selected, should be since that is the default.

The higher the frame rate the better. But converting frame rates isn't
better. Native frame rate is the best. I would say just leave it default.
29.97 if in the US, and probably 25 if using PAL (Europe).

frame reference?, You mean key frame interval. My take on that is that if
you never ever, want to edit and use that video for clips then a higher
number should get you a smaller file. But if you want to edit you can only
cut on a key (full, not interpolated?) frame so set it to 1 so that there
are more cut points available. I think that number is only a maximum
guaranteed key frame interval. If the encoder needs more key frames to
maintain the quality, it will create them.

I always use VBR I guess to get the minimum file size with the greatest
quality, but there are occasions when CBR could be better maybe for certain
hardware devices, or if top quality is desired even if the file size grows.

"TW" <no@way.com> wrote in message news:1083961324.109026@sj-nntpcache-5...
> Still learning!!
>
> I'd probably prefer to keep it as one stream without splitting.
>
> My source DVD have only the Video and Audio: no angles, multi language,
subtitles, etc.
>
> I'm wondering if I cannot just forego the Decrypt step and read VOBs from
DVD directly, except that
> there are multi VOBS, and I think WME will not know to keep rolling to the
next. Multi source could
> be setup, but then you lose VBR which I think adds a lot of value.
(correct??)
>
> So the value of DVD Dec. is to 1) get DVD off disk onto HD and 2) create
one big VOB (besides
> peeling off the extraneous streams and encryption, neither is of a concern
to me).
>
> So I should use DVD dec., but revisit the settings to keep audio and video
in same stream (yes?).
> Settings: Change from default:
> 1) General, Semi Auto (defines output directory)
> 2) File Mode, Split: None
> 3) LEAVE Stream processing as default (Direct stream copy: *, Demux:
(blank)).
>
> (correct?)
>
> Whew!
>
> Questions (always more questions)...
>
> What is the best frame setting for computer display. I've been defaulting
to 29.?? (NTCS), but
> wonder if 25 would be better?
>
> What about reference frame. I ran a test and was surprised to see smaller
number (4 vs 8) gave
> smaller output files size and no difference (that I could tell) in quality
of image. Training
> videos content I have are lots of still images with "Talking Head"
inserted. Some transitions to
> remove/add talking head and change pictures, but not a lot of action at
all (good medicine for
> insomniacs).
>
> Thank you and have a great Weekend!
>
> Tom
>
> jquiet wrote:
> > TW, the instructions you link to split the AC3 into a seperate file. You
did
> > confirm that that was an unnecessary step (keep audio stream as direct
> > stream copy), right?
>
>
> >
> > "TW" <no@way.com> wrote in message
news:1083957400.92791@sj-nntpcache-5...
> >
> >>Well, I have made a big step forward!
> >>
> >>
> >>This is to share with those of you that have provided so much help, and
> >
> > also to provide assistance
> >
> >>to those that may need it in the future.
> >>
> >>My objective is to convert training programs (company owned content) on
> >
> > DVD to Windows Media Video
> >
> >>(WMV) version 9 so they they can be archived on hard drive and
distributed
> >
> > to CD burners as needed.
> >
> >>Why? A 2 hour program takes 4Gbytes on DVD and I am getting that packed
> >
> > down to fit easily onto a
> >
> >>CD-ROM (640 Mbytes)! I've seen as much as 4 hours of quality video (for
> >
> > training purposes) on a
> >
> >>single CD using WMV format.
> >>
> >>For those that have been following the original thread on this news
group:
> >>Although I haven't got it all running on my XP system, Windows Media
> >
> > Encoder (WME) is reading DVD
> >
> >>VOB files just fine on my Laptop running Windows 2000! It is using (I
> >
> > believe) the Intervideo
> >
> >>WinDVD player MPEG2 decoder already installed (not the recommended
Elecard
> >
> > MPEG2 player).
> >
> >>There are some great instructions on the process at:
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=DVD+to+WMV&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=2c9b01c36f31%2459af57d0%243501280a%40phx.gbl&rnum=2
> >
> >>and
> >>http://www.microsoftusernetwork.com/zarax/tutorials/index.htm
> >>
> >>Here is the outline:
> >>
> >>Requires: WM encoder, MPEG2 Codec for DVD player software (intervideo,
> >
> > elecard), DVD ripping
> >
> >>software such as DVD Decrypter. See instruction above for install and
> >
> > setup details.
> >
> >>1. Rip DVD (has multiple VOBS, many data streams) to a single VOB with
> >
> > only the streams of interest
> >
> >>(Video and Audio), saving output to your Hard Drive.
> >>2. Start WME encoder, use the ripped VOB as the input file.
> >>3. Set WME options for desired output format.
> >>4. Encode.
> >>Done!
> >>
> >>This takes LOTS of Disk space and LOTS of processing time.
> >>
> >>Caveats: Some MPEG2 Codecs are not compatible with WME or give inferior
> >
> > results. Moonlight's
> >
> >>Elecard has been repeatedly recommended as the best product. Find it
at:
> >>http://moonlight.co.il/
> >>
> >>If Multiple MPEG2 codecs are installed, they may interfere with each
other
> >
> > and cause problems.It is
> >
> >>neither easy to determine how many you might have installed nor diagnose
> >
> > the root cause when this
> >
> >>happens.
> >>
> >>You may also need an AC3 Filter for Dolby decoding, available at:
> >>http://unc.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/ac3filter/ac3filter_0_70b.exe
> >>If you get an error message and no audio stream input during encoding,
> >
> > then this is likely the problem.
> >
> >>
> >>Good luck, the learning curve can be steep, but the climb is worth it.
> >>
> >>Thank you to the great people that provided help in this news group:
esp.
> >
> > "jquiet" and Alessandro Angeli
> >
> >>Regards,
> >>Tom
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>

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