Re: Burning CD with Data

From: John Gentile <yjgent@xxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 21:52:44 -0400

Thanks for the kind words, but I'm not an official "MVP". I do, however help run a local Mac users group (the Rhode Island Apple Group) and have been involved in it since the old Apple II days. All Mac users should look up their local groups and join them for a lot of reasons - including having someone to turn to when you need help. To locate a user group go to: www.apple.com/usergroups

On 2007-04-30 07:34:10 -0400, Rudolf Hecken <rp31hecken@xxxxxxxxxxx> said:

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Dear John,
Well, that's exactly what I needed (two weeks ago). But trust me I will
treasure and print out your paragraph for my future endeavors with CDs.
The key sentence in your 'recipe' is highlighted below!
So you know, in the beginning of this I went to a convenient computer store
that sells Apples (and Oranges)
with a single question which should have had as answer your statement.
Instead they wanted to sell me ?Toast¹ which made me suspicious.
You know the rest of the story.
Thank you a 1000 X !
This was an interesting experience. If it were not for you MVP people I
would have dished out $$ for something I do not need.
Rudolf
PS: I am not even sure whether you belong to the MVP group?

John Gentile wrote on 4/26/07 6:36 PM

OK, in a nutshell, click on the menu item File and then click on New
Burn Folder. It will create a folder that you can name and place on
your desktop or wherever you want. Then take all the files you want to
burn to the CD and move them into that folder. Place a blank CD in the
drive and click on the default action in the dialog box that shows up
once the CD is detected. then all you need to do is click on the burn
icon in your burn folder. The default format for the CD will be a
hybrid that can be read by both Mac and Windows. If you want to only
burn a PC format then select the type of format when you see the burn
dialog box.

On 2007-04-25 06:35:45 -0400, Rudolf Hecken <rp31hecken@xxxxxxxxxxx> said:

Hi John, thank you for your hint, but I did that already.
However, I hate to tell you that I found so many different references how to
burn a CD that I was not confident that I was using the right or best
method. Just think about the applications cited: iTunes, Finder, Disk
Utility, and what. Then, in Disk Utility the Help Sections are written for
Computer Geeks and not for a struggling 'Apple computer pedestrians' like
me. Ultimately, I found out I had to use Disk Utility but then it still took
me much too many trials and errors to eventually burn a few CDs one of which
- hopefully - can be read on a Windows PC. I say hopefully because I have
no way to test it beforehand except to open it with Stuffit Expander. Is
this test sufficient and foolproof? There is nowhere a hint for any test
that could be applied.
And do you consider the instructions for 'burning a CD to be used on a
Windows PC' being straightforward and simple? I do not. For example, using
for formatting a disk in MS DOS format the 'Erase' functionality does not
sound intuitive to me. And then the annoying habit of the process to dim
whole windows without giving the slightest hint where to start over or what
I did wrong and leading me into a dead end trap. Guess how many times I
started over with 'erasing' the disk?
Finally, it really was quite frustrating for a 75-year old engineer who made
a decent living as an R&D manager to find himself trapped between dimming
windows and ambiguous instructions. My concept of user friendly design used
to demand higher standards.
Never mind my ranting, John. I truly thank you for your attention. But
this episode of learning something new hurt my pride. I only wish you would
have been standing behind me and look over my shoulders to stop me from
going in the wrong direction!
Perhaps some day there is a MVP out there who feels some pity for us hackers
and could write down a sequence of steps in a single coherent paragraph
(without links to other documents that might be relevant or might not) that
lets some poor aging soul like me do it in 15 minutes.
Regards Rudolf

John Gentile wrote on 4/23/07 7:47 PM

On 2007-04-23 19:40:08 -0400, Rudolf Hecken <rp31hecken@xxxxxxxxxxx> said:

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Is there a good source of information available on how to burn a CD-R or RW
with data (about 40+ MB of pictures + one Excel document + one Word
document) on a Mac PB G4 with OSX 10.4.9 such that it can be read on a PC
with Windows XP? Your hints are very much appreciated.
Rudolf

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Have you tried to use the Apple Help menu option? I just clicked on the
Help and then on the Mac Help and in the Ask a question box I typed in
"burn CD" and I got a whole list of instructions on all aspects of
burning CDs and making them compatible with Windows.

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Dear John, 
Well, that's exactly what I needed (two weeks ago).  But trust me I wi=
ll treasure and print out your paragraph for my future endeavors with CDs. <=
BR>
The key sentence in your 'recipe' is highlighted below!   
So you know, in the beginning of this I went to a convenient computer store=
that sells Apples (and Oranges) 
with a single question which should have had as answer your statement. &nbs=
p;Instead they wanted to sell me ‘Toast’ which made me suspiciou=
s. 
You know the rest of the story. 
Thank you a 1000 X !   
This was an interesting experience.  If it were not for you MVP people=
I would have dished out $$ for something I do not need. 
Rudolf 
PS:  I am not even sure whether you belong to the MVP group? 
 
<HR ALIGN=3DCENTER SIZE=3D"3" WIDTH=3D"95%">John Gentile wrote on 4/26/07 6:36 PM=
 
 
> OK, in a nutshell, click on the menu item File and then click on New <=
BR>
> Burn Folder. It will create a folder that you can name and place on <B=
R>
> your desktop or wherever you want. Then take all the files you want to=
 
> burn to the CD and move them into that folder. Place a blank CD in the=
 
> drive and click on the default action in the dialog box that shows up =
 
> once the CD is detected. then all you need to do is click on the burn =
 
> icon in your burn folder. The default format for the CD will be a <=
BR>
> hybrid that can be read by both Mac and Windows. If you want to on=
ly 
> burn a PC format then select the type of format when you see the burn =
 
> dialog box. 
> 
> On 2007-04-25 06:35:45 -0400, Rudolf Hecken <rp31hecken@xxxxxxxxxxx=
> said: 
> 
>> Hi John, thank you for your hint, but I did =
that already. 
>> However, I hate to tell you that I found so many different referen=
ces how to 
>> burn a CD that I was not confident that I was using the right or b=
est 
>> method. Just think about the applications cited: iTunes, Finder, D=
isk 
>> Utility, and what.  Then, in Disk Utility the Help Sections a=
re written for 
>> Computer Geeks and not for a struggling 'Apple computer pedestrian=
s' like 
>> me. Ultimately, I found out I had to use Disk Utility but then it =
still took 
>> me much too many trials and errors to eventually burn a few CDs on=
e of which 
>> - hopefully - can be read on a Windows PC.  I say hopefully b=
ecause I have 
>> no way to test it beforehand except to open it with Stuffit Expand=
er.  Is 
>> this test sufficient and foolproof? There is nowhere a hint for an=
y test 
>> that could be applied. 
>> And do you consider the instructions for 'burning a CD to be used =
on a 
>> Windows PC' being straightforward and simple?  I do not. &nbs=
p;For example, using 
>> for formatting a disk in MS DOS format the 'Erase' functionality d=
oes not 
>> sound intuitive to me.  And then the annoying habit of the pr=
ocess to dim 
>> whole windows without giving the slightest hint where to start ove=
r or what 
>> I did wrong and leading me into a dead end trap.  Guess how m=
any times I 
>> started over with 'erasing' the disk? 
>> Finally, it really was quite frustrating for a 75-year old enginee=
r who made 
>> a decent living as an R&D manager to find himself trapped betw=
een dimming 
>> windows and ambiguous instructions.  My concept of user frien=
dly design used 
>> to demand higher standards. 
>> Never mind my ranting, John.  I truly thank you for your atte=
ntion.  But 
>> this episode of learning something new hurt my pride.  I only=
wish you would 
>> have been standing behind me and look over my shoulders to stop me=
from 
>> going in the wrong direction! 
>> Perhaps some day there is a MVP out there who feels some pity for =
us hackers 
>> and could write down a sequence of steps in a single coherent para=
graph 
>> (without links to other documents that might be relevant or might =
not) that 
>> lets some poor aging soul like me do it in 15 minutes. 
>> Regards Rudolf 
>> 
>> 
>> John Gentile wrote on 4/23/07 7:47 PM 
>> 
>>> On 2007-04-23 19:40:08 -0400, Rud=
olf Hecken <rp31hecken@xxxxxxxxxxx> said: 
>>> 
>>>>> This message is in MIME f=
ormat. Since your mail reader does not understand 
>>>> this format, some or all of this message may not be legibl=
e. 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Is there a good source of information available on how to =
burn a CD-R or RW 
>>>> with data (about 40+ MB of pictures + one Excel document +=
one Word 
>>>> document) on a Mac PB G4 with OSX 10.4.9 such that it can =
be read on a PC 
>>>> with Windows XP?  Your hints are very much appreciate=
d. 
>>>> Rudolf 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> <HTML> 
>>>> <HEAD> 
>>>> <TITLE>Burning CD with Data</TITLE> 
>>>> </HEAD> 
>>>> <BODY> 
>>>> Is 
>>>> there a good=3D 
>>>> source of information available on how to burn a CD-R or R=
W with data 
>>>> (abou=3D 
>>>> t 40+ MB of pictures + one Excel document + one Word docum=
ent) on a Mac PB 
>>>> G=3D 
>>>> 4 with OSX 10.4.9 such that it can be read on a PC with Wi=
ndows XP? 
>>>> &nbsp;Yo=3D 
>>>> ur hints are very much appreciated. 
>>>> Rudolf 
>>>> </BODY> 
>>>> </HTML> 
>>> 
>>> Have you tried to use the Apple Help menu option? I just click=
ed on the 
>>> Help and then on the Mac Help and in the Ask a question box I =
typed in 
>>> "burn CD" and I got a whole list of instructions on =
all aspects of 
>>> burning CDs and making them compatible with Windows. 
> 

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John Gentile
Newsletter editor
Rhode Island Apple Group

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