Re: Market for Vintage Macs?
From: Alan Zisman (alan_at_nospam.zisman.ca)
Date: 09/12/04
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Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 00:13:26 GMT
In article <flotte-981084.16214111092004@corp.supernews.com>,
Fred Lotte <flotte@nospam.stratos.net> wrote:
>
> On occasion, I volunteer at the local PC user group's hardware sig when
> the get some of 'those Macs' donated (I'm not a member of the group).
> Over the past 3-4 years I have restored a few dozen LC II & III as well
> as some newer models. These have mostly gone to local schools. I loaded
> them with the last free system (7.5.5 I think) and freeware like BBEdit.
> As Moocatdog points out, the schools are overjoyed.
>
> Just this past week the group received about a dozen slot loading iMacs
> that a local business replaced with Dell something or other (where's the
> Apple sales department?). They did not get the system disks or any other
> software. They should have been able to get OS 9.x that the machines
> were delivered with and some version of OSX 10.2.x since the machines
> appear to have OSX 10.2.8.
>
> I REPEAT:
>
> THE MACHINES WERE DONATED WITHOUT THE SYSTEM DISKS OR ANY SOFTWARE!!!!!
>
> It's the group's practice to wipe the HD clean to some MIL spec and load
> an operating system. My PC centric friends have some type of deal from
> Bill himself that allows them to load some version of Windose on about a
> thousand old Intel machines a year which are given to schools and
> churches. They are clueless when it comes to Apple and don't know that
> the software situation is changing almost daily and a donated machine
> may not be able to use the currently available OS.
>
> The group doesn't have the money to buy an OS for donated machines and,
> since Apple no longer seems to provide key legacy OS's for free, these
> machines may be useless... actually worse than useless since they take
> up a lot of space (they have Windose boxen stacked eye high, you can't
> stack iMacs).
>
> My reason for writing this is to point out that:
>
> IF YOU DONATE THE MACHINE, AT LEAST DONATE THE SOFTWARE THAT CAME WITH
> IT and any upgrades that you no longer need!!!!!!
>
> I could write more but my blood pressure is too high from just this ;-)
I certainly agree with you... I run a computer lab in a (Vancouver BC
Canada) elementary school, and we get a number of donated systems-- from
individuals, from local businesses, and most recently from a computer
leasing company.
In virtually NONE of those cases have we received operating system
licenses (or any of the other software that comes with the systems.
For Windows systems, Microsoft has a new program (Fresh Start)
available to schools where either Win98SE or Win2000 can be installed
onto donated systems-- if the schools can demonstrate proof of donation.
(Schools have to apply to MS for a license in order to do this). (Should
anyone be interested in this program, go to:
http://www.microsoft.com/education/freshstart/freshstart.asp )
I don't know of any equivalent program from Apple... I think I'll write
the people I know in Apple Canada.
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