Re: For those who have Intel-based Macs...
- From: "Tony Kavadias" <tonzack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 23:47:46 +1000
I have some comments to make regarding what Colin said here, because I
disagree with him entirely:
"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Virtual PC 2007 for Intel machines does not entitle you to transfer a VPC
6 or 7 bundled copy of Windows to an Intel machine. You are always free
to transfer the license to a retail copy of Windows, but not a bundled
one. There is nothing on the website you linked that addresses VPC6 or 7
bundled Windows in any way. The bundled Windows license is restricted to
use with the copy of VPC it comes with. The licenses for VPC for PPC Macs
is not related to VPC 2007 at all.
Given the license documentation I have received with Office:Mac 2004
Professional, both in print, and on the supplied CDs, I am licensed to use
Windows XP in however manner the accompanying literature has described, so
long as I have retained my original CD set and continue to have a valid and
authentic print of a Windows XP Pro Product Key for it (as it appears on the
CD sleeve of the original media). As long as I have the CD sleeve and the
disks, I have a valid Windows XP Pro license. Since there is no OEM serial
number and Terms of Use that has accompanied the media, I am licensed to use
Windows XP as if I have the retail package of the product, because for all
intents and purposes, the licensing described upon installation of Windows
XP spells out my obligations, rights and privileges to using the software,
which is no different to what is produced with the retail version of Windows
XP Professional..
The Windows XP Professional document (a PDF) that appears on the CD (disk 1)
says to:
"5. Review the license agreement and, if you agree, accept it." (Install
Windows XP, page 3, step 5).
In the Read-Me file on the Virtual PC for Mac installation CD (disk 1), the
only reference to licensing relates to installation:
"Note: if you want to install your own licensed copy of a PC operating
system but you don't have a bootable CD-ROM, you must make a disk copy or
Virtual PC floppy disk image of the boot floppy disk that came with the
operating system."
and this is indeed nothing more than help on how to install your presumed
licensed copy of your operating system.
Upon installing Windows XP Professional on my virtual machine, the license
states:
"1. GRANT OF LICENSE
1.1. Installation and use. You may install, use, access, display and run
one copy of the Software on a single computer, such as a workstation,
terminal or other device ("Workstation Computer"). The Software may not be
used by more than two (2) processors at any one time on any single
Workstation Computer."
By any stretch of the imagination, "other device" includes a virtual
machine, since it is the executor of the software.
Since I have merely moved the virtual machine's disk image from one physical
machine to another, and remain to have the same product key as the original
installation, I am licensed to use Windows XP on that same installation,
despite the fact that I am using a different virtual machine hosting
application (Virtual PC 2007 running on Windows) to run it.
The license only binds a Windows XP Professional installation identified
with one product key to one user, for a single-user retail version of the
product. Henceforth, there is absolutely no reason why the license would be
violated in running Windows XP Professional on another platform (in this
case, an Intel-based Mac running Windows XP or Vista as a host OS under
Virtual PC 2007 using the *same system image* as the one the guest Windows
XP system was installed on).
That's why I added that you must:
-- forfeit the use of any other installation of your Windows XP
Professional system, and
-- have the original set of CDs and product keys from your original
product purchase
to have a valid license to use the software. And you can't use Virtual PC
2007 to install Windows off the CDs that came with Virtual PC for Mac-you
need to install Windows on a virtual machine hosted by Virtual PC for Mac
first.
And I have also checked the license for Virtual PC 2007... under the same
provisions for using a separately licensed Windows installation on Virtual
PC for Mac, you can also use a separately licensed Windows installation on
Virtual PC 2007. There is nothing in the product licensing for Virtual PC
2007 that says that you can only use the version of Windows provided with
that product, because, frankly, you can obtain Virtual PC 2007 without any
accompanying Windows product, and the license to Virtual PC 2007 allows for
that.
Hope this clarifies your understanding of Windows licensing wrt. Virtual PC
for Mac in this instance.
"Tony Kavadias" <tonzack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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... I want to treat you all with an insight to what is possible (because
I have this configuration running right now as I write this) if you want
to install Windows on the Mac via Boot Camp, but want to preserve your
former Virtual PC installation within the new Windows environment on our
Mac.
This was exactly my scenario: I have Windows Vista Business that I want
to run under Boot Camp on my MacBook Pro, but I have stuff I want to
migrate from Windows XP running under a virtual machine on an old
PowerPC-based Mac (my PowerBook G4, incidentally) running Virtual PC.
And according to the EULA that comes with Virtual PC, I actually am
entitled to do this legally under the new arrangement because the copy of
Windows that ran under the old Virtual PC installation will continue to
run in the same way under the new installation... so you can forget
worrying about any legalities when you do this, except for two issues:
* you promise to forfeit your Virtual PC installation on the
PowerPC-based Mac, and the installation of Windows within, and
* you may have to re-authenticate Windows when you migrate your
installation on your new Intel-based Mac.
[Important: for the above to be true, you must have a Virtual PC product
with a version of Windows that you actually intend to use on the upgraded
system, or you need a retail product of Windows, which comes with its own
EULA and installation disks. Using a product that did not come with your
licensed copy of Virtual PC or Windows retail is a voilation of the
Windows and/or Virtual PC and/or Office v.Mac Professional EULA.]
If Windows came with your Virtual PC:Mac or Office v.Mac Professional
product, then you will have no problems running under the new
environment, either technically or legally.
So what is the new environment that I am so excited about? Well, I
simply came to the realisation that even though I can boot Windows on my
Mac via Boot Camp, I can also augment this environment with an
installation of Virtual PC 2007 SP1 for Windows, of which can be obtained
for free from:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/virtualpc/default.mspx
to run older installations of Windows on my Intel-based Macintosh! So
now I have a way to run the former virtual machine on a faster
environment, in a completely compatible manner that does not involve
translating virtual machines from one product to another.
The slightly tricky part is copying the hard disk image(s) to the Windows
Vista boot partition. This mailout shows how to prepare your disk images
so that Virtual PC 2007 can boot them.
Firstly, you need an Intel-based Mac with Leopard installed (or Tiger, if
you have dared to keep a beta of Boot Camp running on your system!), and
you need to install a host Windows installation. I have used Windows
Vista Business on my setup-but you can also use Windows XP SP2, since you
need to have a supported version of Windows available for Boot Camp to
boot into.
After you have Vista or XP installed on the Boot Camp partition, download
Virtual PC 2007 and install that into your Windows environment. After
you have that up and running, don't prepare a virtual machine for it just
yet... you'll want to get your old virtual machine into the Windows
system first.
To do that, you can:
* prepare the host Windows XP or Vista system to enable file sharing, so
that your PowerPC-based Mac can mount its SMB file share.
* copy your virtual machine <name>.vpc7 to the host Windows installation
on your Intel-based Mac via SMB networking.
There are other ways you could copy the virtual machine over... but I
chose what I think is the quickest and cheapest solution.
Then, in Virtual PC 2007, make a new virtual machine. You need to do
this because Virtual PC for Mac and Virtual PC 2007 have different filing
conventions for representing your virtual machine-dropping in the Mac's
virtual machine for Virtual PC 2007 to pick up will not work, because
Virtual PC 2007 cannot identify Virtual PC's virtual machines.
When you make your
--
-- tonza.
.
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