Re: Can you create a *.pdf within Word 2008



Hi Phillip:

You trust Microsoft *that* much?? :-) No computer company ever tells the
truth -- in America, they would get sued for it if they tried.

Microsoft HAS come out with their own system. It is a free download for
Office 2007. The only reason they did not put it in the box with Office
2007 is that Adobe screamed.

There is NO reason why that converter would not work with the next version
of Office Mac. It's one of the "things they could do" that would be quick
and cheap, because the converter is a stand-alone. Recompile for Mac OS X
and they're done.

So it's one of the things I suspect might indeed become available for Office
2010 if Adobe doesn't get their act together and give Nandor is nice
hyperlinks sometime real soon now :-)

Cheers


On 24/11/08 1:41 AM, in article e3qGjYYTJHA.1164@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
"Phillip Jones, C.E.T." <pjones1@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

No I don't for a minute believe it. Personally I think they are just
danged lazy to figure it out. Or like you are scared that if they fix
the code. They will miss sales.

Reporting what they say and believing what they say are to different
things. BTW: I trust MS equally as much when it comes to Mac issues.

I too, wish that Microsoft would come out with their new system.

But what are you willing to to bet, that it will work only for PC's and
will not work on Macintosh Platform.

I already have an issue in Acrobat 9, I can't get resolved either their
forums or from them direct. I can't choose the printer in the Page setup
menu.

So I would love to have a system that anyone could open on my website,
for my family trees. and not have to worry about everyone having the
ability to open.

John McGhie wrote:
Hi Phillip:

Oh, for once I read your wording very carefully. Twice :-)

But as I discovered when I became a journalist, there's no such thing as
"according to Adobe..." in an article posted by "Phillip Jones, C.E.T."

It all becomes "Phillip says...".

Now, if you want to accept the blame for Adobe's feeble excuse-making
claptrap, you are most welcome. Someone should!

But the rest of us will continue to believe that Adobe won't do this because
they don't want to hurt their market for the incredibly-over-priced Adobe
Acrobat :-)

Cheers


On 23/11/08 5:29 AM, in article #R8GFzNTJHA.5568@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
"Phillip Jones, C.E.T." <pjones1@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Obviously You didn't read my wording. Personally I don't know whom is at
fault. for all I know its all three. I am Just repeating what the line
at Adobe says

John McGhie wrote:
Well, you have to swallow a bit of computer-company double-speak.

OS X on the Mac saves PDF version 1.3. There is nothing wrong with the
PDF,
but PDF has various versions. Adobe won't let anyone produce the latest
version without paying a hefty licence fee, which Apple and Microsoft
sensibly decline to do.

The ISO standard is PDF 1.7, the latest version is PDF 1.8. See
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/pdf/pdf_reference.html

Adobe keeps trying to blame the lack of hyperlinks on the Mac on Microsoft.
As we have tried to explain to Phillip, that's nonsense: Microsoft Word has
fully supported Hyperlinks since Word 98.

The reality is that the PDF Writer that writes the PDF needs to read the
input file properly. The hyperlinks are in the file: but it's Adobe's
responsibility to get them out.

On the PC, Adobe has created an application known as PDFMaker that does
that. They have consistently refused to make it for the Mac.

I hope that the next version of Microsoft Word on the Mac will offer XPS
(XML Paper Specification). This is very similar to PDF, but it is encoded
in XML instead of PostScript. And hyperlinks are required in XPS for it to
work, so they will work perfectly :-)

Cheers


On 22/11/08 12:13 AM, in article 59b60bc2.3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
"nandor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <nandor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Except these don't really save something as a PDF with full functionality.
On
a Mac it only "prints to" a PDF (even if you choose "save as PDF"). If you
have anything "special" in the PDF, like forms to fill in or hyperlinks,
these
will not actually save to the PDF - what happens instead is that it saves
SOMETHING as a PDF file which you can then use only for printing it out.

So from what I can tell, the answer to "can you save something as a PDF"
really has the answer "yes and no."

But I'd love to be told I'm wrong, or to find out that there is a solution
to
what I'm calling "the PDF hyperlink problem for Mac."


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John McGhie, Microsoft MVP, Word and Word:Mac
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