Re: Slow start-up times
- From: Beth Rosengard <bethrosengard@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 12:11:53 -0800
So my Normal cut the launch time in half (from before), but nothing close to
the 5 seconds of your guest account. Hmmm.
Does your guest account have access to the same 400 fonts as the main
account? I would assume not. If that's correct, copy all of those fonts to
the guest account's user font folder and see what happens. Does it all slow
down?
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On 2/13/08 11:13 AM, in article
d69b463c-8a03-4d43-9eda-f294c9a9bc24@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "nb"
<nbarman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thanks for sending the Normal template over Beth and no worries about
the delay. Here are the results:
- first time I started Word with your Normal.dotm file - 37 seconds
- second time - 24 seconds
- third time - around 24 seconds
Word is still starting on my guest account within 5 seconds.
On Feb 13, 1:40 pm, Beth Rosengard <bethroseng...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Hi NB,
My apologies! I was away from this group for a few days but now I'm back.
I'm sending my Normal template to you at the gmail address I see below. If
you don't receive it, send me a direct email from whatever address you want
me to send it to.
When you receive it, download it to your desktop and then drag it into
~/library/Application Support/Microsoft/Office/User Templates. When asked
if you want to replace the current file, say Yes. Then come back here and
report the results!
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On 2/11/08 8:46 PM, in article C3D76FBB.100B7%j...@xxxxxxxxxxx, "John
McGhie" <j...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
No "other" suggestions. I am waiting to see what happens when you try
Beth's Normal.dotm
The issue basically is that Word is pausing to "read data". It's getting
about 20 MB from your Entourage database, some from its preferences, some
from the Normal.dotm, some from Document Parts.dotx and some from the font
cache.
I "suspect" that you have fonts being enabled/disabled and causing the font
cache to rebuild each launch. But I can't prove it. 400 is a huge font
list: if each of those is between 300 kb and a meg in size, you could be
running low on memory.
The only other place I think would be worth looking is your Preference
files. They are not large, but they can cause Word to conduct
time-consuming operations at startup.
I am running 200 fonts on the same machine without any slowdowns.
So I am out of ideas.
On 12/02/08 3:08 AM, in article
375ec3da-d19e-46bd-91a5-d771cb093...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "nb"
<nbar...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I have a set of about 400 fonts which I always keep enabled. By what
you wrote below, it seems that Word should take a while to start up
the first time, but once it has built the cache, subsequent restarts
should happen fairly fast. Since every startup (except the first) is
taking close to 50 seconds, I'm not sure what I can do to speed it
up... any other ideas?
On Feb 11, 2:54 am, John McGhie <j...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The User Database is your email file, if you are using Entourage.
If you are not using Entourage, it holds various other things that Office
would like to put in a database, such as contacts.
Office 2008 uses yet another new format for the database, and 20 MB is
about
as small as it ever gets.
When Office applications start up, they first check to see if there are
any
"new" fonts. If there are, they will rebuild the Office Font Cache. This
will take a bit of time.
Next time you restart the application, if nothing has changed, the font
cache will be up-to-date and Word will simply use it.
If you use a font manager that causes fonts to be enabled and disabled
frequently, you could expect to have to rebuild the Office font Cache
every
startup. Ideally, you would settle on a font collection containing only
the
fonts you actually use day-to-day, enable them, and leave them that way.
If you have several hundred fonts, and you make changes to the active set
dynamically, you can expect slow startup times :-)
Personally, I believe this is a weak design. The system has a font cache
that it maintains automatically. I believe that Microsoft Office should
simply "use" the System Cache.
Hope this helps
On 11/02/08 2:28 PM, in article
73b8827b-70cf-48bf-ab60-c4986fde5...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "nb"
<nbar...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Per my previous post, if I re-enable my user fonts in Font Book, the
startup times for Word again increase to 50 seconds.
On Feb 10, 10:01 pm, nb <nbar...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Beth,
Sorry for the late reply to your post. You have understood my problem
correctly - 17 seconds when Word needs to create a new Normal template
and 50 seconds when the normal template is already created
previously. I would definitely like to try it out with your
normal.dotm to see what happens.
How would you want to send it to me?
Best,
NB
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