Re: apostrophe with space in Word
- From: Phillip Jones <pjones1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 12:11:26 -0400
John I speak a little only on the Ariel/Helvetica.
Until The Macintosh come out there was not Helvetica, nor was there Ariel.
Helvetica as known in the computing world didn't get going (become popular) until Apple included it in the Mac Operating system.
Because it became so popular, Microsoft decide to add to their font collection, but because it was patented (adobe) they decide to create their own version. Ariel was born. It was Ms design creation as a copy of Helvetica.
Funny thing is, that because Ariel caught on, Apple now includes their version in the OS as well.
John McGhie wrote:
Hi Elliott:
Am I doing something objectionable and imaginary, or is "Arial" a slightly
lighter weight than "Helvetica"?
There's nothing much in it, but I have always felt that (at least on the
PC...) Arial is lighter. I tend to stay away from Helv because to my eyes
it's too black.
As to your original suggestion: Since our man has been away from the path
of righteousness for 11 yeas, he may be unaware that Unicode has "happened"
to us here on the Mac.
There's a learned discussion on it here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode
So it may help to explain that the Unicode character set now defines about
100,000 characters. Only about 32,000 have actually been seen in the fonts
I know about.
However, this leads to some very interesting comparisons of the nature of
"mine's bigger than yours...". No, you're right, they're not "interesting",
they are mind-numbingly boring. But when choosing a font, it is now
important to know the answer to the question "How many glyphs (characters)
does it contain?"
When Microsoft first shipped Unicode support in Office Mac, it updated two
of the Microsoft fonts to contain a wider set of characters. These are
Times New Roman and Arial. Each of those contains more than 576 characters.
All of the rest contain the Mac International standard character set, which
is about 280 characters.
I know of only one font that contains all the common glyphs: Microsoft's
Arial Unicode MS. This giant 22 MB font contains all 32,000 glyphs defined
in the Unicode version 3.2 standard. Unicode is now up to version 5.
Microsoft produced Arial Unicode MS partly to find out whether it is
"possible" to get all 32,000 characters into a single font. And partly to
act as a "Lender of last resort" on Windows machines when they encounter
some weird character that is not defined in any of the normal fonts.
Well, it *is* possible to get all those characters into a font. But the
compromises required to keep the size of the font file within useable limits
lead to a fairly ugly font.
Microsoft steadfastly refuses to ship it with its Mac software, because
under certain circumstances apparently some of the characters will crash a
Mac. Well, all I can say is that it has never crashed any of the Macs I
have owned. And since it is really useful to have a "lender of last resort"
font so I never get stuck for a character; and I own a copy of Microsoft
Office for the PC, Arial Unicode MS somehow seems to make its way onto every
Mac I own. Funny that...
Once installed, the system will look everywhere else in preference to find
the characters it needs, but if none of your other fonts have it, it will
slide in the character from Arian Unicode MS.
Hope this helps
On 1/09/07 1:20 AM, in article 310820071620078456%nospam@xxxxxxxxx, "Elliott
Roper" <nospam@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In article <1188569967.994477.140260@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
<bzes@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Disclaimer: I'm a new Mac user after 11 years of pc life. Since it'sAha! That's all your problem is. Apple Gothic's right single quotation
taking me awhile to find my way around searching for some of these
answers, I'm doing my homework and composing replies offline.
Font is AppleGothic as my default and in the paragraph.
mark has the wrong width, but the apostrophe is OK. That explains
everything!
You wouldn't bother with Apple Gothic unless you need access to some of
the least used glyphs on the planet. In Word you would use Arial for
best cross platform choice of a clean gothic face.
Helvetica is the Apple blessed variation. There is very little
difference. Compare the lower case a and t of each.
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