Re: Toolbar Icons Disappear

Thanks for your advice. My current workaround is to resize the
toolbars to something like a sqare and let them be like that. It seems
that the icons are now stable. The problem seems to occur only when
the toolbars are resized to purely vertical. Having square shaped
toolbars is OK for me as the original requirement to have them besides
the main window is solved.

My feeling is that this all is not permissions related but toolbar-
shape related so I will stick with what I have and keep my fingers
crossed.

Thanks for your patience and your support

Robert


On Jul 23, 12:20 pm, CyberTaz <onlygeneralt...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
One further suggestion - may or may not help - Reapply the Office 11.3.5
update, then apply 11.3.6 & repair permissions. As to the rest of your last
post, see the inline below:

On 7/22/07 2:25 PM, in article
1185128755.778707.44...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "rh"

<Robert.Huf...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
OK so I seem to be one of the "some" users. As I lived with that for 9
months now I might as well continue. Resurrection is a fine thing. Now
if I click on the resize triangle of a toolbar the toolbar turns white
AND the resize triangle no longer works. So even my workaround went
away. My emotions slowly begin to kick in again but this time I'll
keep them cool - until I'll get somebody by the collar ;-).

BTW are there any news or rumours about the upcoming version of office
which should run natively on Intel Macs?

Any rumors are exactly that. The only thing that means anything is an
official announcement from MS, and I'm not certain that *they* have anything
more definite as yet... The latest such ann. is "Second half of 2007".

I am fairly eager to try that
because

1. it should eliminate the need for rosetta and therefore one
potential cause of my problem

Not only that, but it is expected to be a totally re-written package of
programs with a completely different UI - 2007 has virtually done away with
toolbars altogether, if that can be interpreted as any indication.

2. it should therefore run way faster. Office on my Intel Mac is not
exactly a performance screamer when comparing it to Office on W*32

Undoubtedly - Obviating the "middle-man" will provide one major performance
boost. Universal Binary, itself, combined with the expected design changes
should enhance performance even more.



kind Regards

Robert

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On Jul 21, 9:16 pm, CyberTaz <onlygeneralt...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thanks for the clarification!

Unfortunately this is an issue which only seems to affect "some" users
"some" times on "some" systems. Worst of all it doesn't seem to be something
that can be induced, and if you can't *cause* it, it's particularly
difficult to diagnose & if it can't be diagnosed it can't be fixed. It does
seem to be more prevalent (maybe even exclusive) on the Intel Macs which
suggests that Rosetta may be involved. But like I say, nobody has yet been
able to narrow it down to Apple/MS, Hdw/sftw, Rosetta, haxies, or some
combination of all the above. My unit is a PPC & I've been using 2004 since
it first shipped without having experienced this *at all* [knock wood].

One thing that may help is to repair permissions, and haxies (3rd party
"helper" utilities) have been associated with the phenomenon as well.
Replacing the respective .plist files can also be effective, but in your
case - since all Office apps are involved - I tend to think it's *not*
Office-specific.

Please see the inline comments as well:

Hi Bob,

many thanks for your quick response and sorry for my wording last time
but sometimes emotions just kick in:-).

No problem - it's just that some seem to think they have MS by the collar in
here, rather than just a bunch of working stiffs like themselves who are
just trying to assist them as best we can:)

To be more specific here is my
environment:

MacBook/2GB
Max OS X 10.4.10
Word 10.3.5. 070413

I am not referring to the formatting palette but to the toolbars. I
usually have 4 Toolbars on my display: Menu Bar, Standard, Formatting
and Review. In order to maximize the amount of text on the screen I
prefer to have the toolbars beside the main window so I resize them to
be vertically. After some time of work the icons in the toolbars
disappear. The toolbar just turns **white**, sometimes partially,
sometimes completely. So if I want to save some work using the save
icon,

I realize you're just stating this as an example, but just in case you
aren't aware of it, you might want to use Command+S to save as you work &
avoid leaving the keyboard altogether:)

I have to move the mouse pointer across the whole toolbar to
make the icons reappear icon by icon and to find the save icon.

I also tried the resize triangle in the lower right corner of the
toolbar. Clicking on it ALL icons on the tooolbar disappeared and the
toolbar turned white completely.

This is a completely new wrinkle - I haven't heard reference to that before.

Funny enough, after resizing the toolbar to be horizontal and klicking
the resize triangle in the lower right corner, the icons no longer
disappear.

Nor this - more testimony to the fact that every reported instance exhibits
a different set of symptoms.

Another interesting fact is that I have selected "Menu Bar" as one of
my displayed toolbars but the Menu Bar is displayed only when the
"Customize Toolbars" dialog is open. This seems a but funny to me but
I dont care because I use the standard menu on top of the screen.

The "standard menu" you refer to is generated by OS X and cannot be directly
customized. In the Customize dialog you're provided with Word's "internal"
model on which the OS bases its menu bar. The internal model you can modify
& the changes you make are then presented to OS X for you :)

Maybe my problem has been solved by resizing the toolbars, lets see
what happens next. My feeling is that there *is* a hard to detect
bug.

I sure wish you well - I'll keep my fingers crossed, but I won't hold my
breath:) Even in *some* cases where it has "seemed" to be cured a future OS
X or Office update has been known to resurrect it.

The problem of disappearing icons also happens in Excel and
Powerpoint.

Thanks, Robert

Robert

Good Luck |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac


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