Re: Word Crashing
- From: "drgooply" <drgooply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 16 Jan 2007 20:47:01 -0800
Well, CopyPaste, or IClip, or, in Windows, Clipmate, these are not
"add-on toys", but rather essential tools for writing. I would far
prefer if it were built in to Word, but it is not. As I understand
the Word Clipboard, when you close the session, the clips disappear.
And when I said it doesn't hold a lot, I'm not referring to page count,
but rather the number of clips.
When I am writing at the computer, I am composing, and it's a constant
give and take; I'll write something, take it out, change my mind, put
it back, use part of it, use it later ... this isn't "juggling", this
is creative writing, and I can't imagine writing any other way. Using
two windows makes it too hard to find things, they're all jumbled into
one document; that wouldn't work.
You make it sound as if I am playing in traffic. Word unexpectedly
quits, and it is annoying, but this is why I autosave every two
minutes.
Am I really doing something as dangerous as you say? I have been
writing on a Mac for about four or five years now. I miss ClipMate
terribly - about the only thing I miss about Windows - and although I
am discouraged to hear that what seems to me something perfectly
reasonable and simple is playing with fire, the truth is, that although
Word has Quit often, I have not lost any more than a minute or two's
worth of work, if that. Is there really no way to keep Word from
quitting using one of these - I don't know what a "haxie" is, but is
that what I'm using?
Thank you.
Elliott Roper wrote:
In article <1168984936.764229.91780@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
drgooply <drgooply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I read with interest the thread about frequent Word crashes, and the..more precisely when you cut while one of these wonder clipboards is
person who posted that she too was having the same problem, and the
suggestion she start a new thread. I too have had frequent Word
crashes, and hadn't realized that mine too are related to cutting text,
until I'd read the thread, and realized that's what they all had in
common. (I used to think it was because I was running iTunes or
something like it simultaneously, but that is not the case.) It
happens when I control X text.
hanging about...
I too use a program, in this case..you have empirical evidence that this is dangerous by now...
CopyPaste, which probably comes between Word and the OS, or whatever
Word needs to be in direct contact with. Before CopyPaste, I used
IClip, but had frequent crashes. CopyPaste caused fewer crashes, but
still, Word "stops unexpectedly" very often. (I have set the AutoSave
in preferences to 2 minutes because of this.)
I need a program like CopyPaste or IClip - in Windows, I used ClipMate,I really think you are working dangerously. Asking two or more programs
a great program, but not made for Mac - because I often need to refer
back to things I've deleted in the course of creating a manuscript,
whether or not I've shut down the computer between sessions, or
regardless of how long ago I deleted it.
that have never been properly introduced to keep conversing via a
complex data structure like a multi-panel clipboard for weeks on end
across re-boots, crashes and all is asking for trouble.
Word's Clipboard isHuh? I frequently stick 500 page documents in the Word clipboard?
inadequate; it doesn't hold enough,
and isn't there by default,Huh? It's always there.
andOh, you mean *that* one. I thought they threw it away. It is *scary*. I
must be visible onscreen in order to work.
definitely wouldn't use that unless I needed an excuse for not meeting
a deadline.
These programs work in theYou have proven otherwise have you not?
background, and just store the things you delete, in a way you can
control.
Is there anyway of working with one of these programs in a way thatThis you might think a bit Neanderthal, but what is wrong with a
doesn't cause Word to react with pique and shut down? Is there one
that might not cause the shut-down?
separate Word document or two for parking deletions? I seldom juggle
with so many balls in the air as you seem to, and I find that simply
leaving a heap of dregs hanging about at the end of the working doc
works well for me.
Cmd-opt-z is a useful shortcut for leaping between recent areas of work.
and cmd-~ for leaping between windows.
Another way of working is to run with track changes on, tentatively
deleting stuff, then accepting changes when you are settled. That has
the advantage of holding the deletions in their original context, which
for my feeble brain is a useful memory jog.
Thanks for the help I am coming to depend upon.
Not much help, I'm afraid. More like an argument. ;-)
You'd never catch me using any add-in toy for serious work that I did
not want to lose, with any application, not just Word.
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