Re: Grey logos in letterheads

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Actually they don't pretend. What they say It "can" be used to create a Document that can be used in Word when the original is not available.

I would be very surprised indeed if it managed to port over all the original stuff used in the original. Its just like using Text touch up in Acrobat except it at a higher level . You convert to a Word Document make the necessary changes then convert back to a PDF.

Its still better for a PDF and the original Word document to be sent. But, when That isn't possible, It could be a Lifesaver otherwise.

John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh] wrote:
Hi Phillip:

No. I do not know that.

I do know that Adobe's sales literature CLAIMS that they can :-)

When you read " ... retaining the layout, fonts, formatting, and tables." on
the Adobe page you need to be hyper-alert for what it does NOT mention.
"Styles, Numbered Lists, nested tables, hyperlinks, section breaks and
access restrictions" are not mentioned. Guess why?

Because the PDF language doesn't contain them. PDF is packaged PostScript.
It's a page description language. A Word document is an object-oriented
container. XML will describe a Word document; PDF will not.

What you get back is in Word file format, but it's not a high-fidelity match
for the original file.

Sure, what Adobe has done is convenient and useful. But I do wish they
would stop pretending it's more than it is.

Cheers


On 7/1/07 5:55 AM, in article eUd2ARcMHHA.960@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Phillip
Jones" <pjones1@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

You do know That Acrobat 7.08 and Acrobat 8 "PRO" versions allow you to
take a PDF and create a Word document from it. Or even a RTF Document.

IN 7 go to SAVE AS and click on the button that shows file type (default
is pdf) and choose Word.doc or .RTF.

IN Acrobat choose export and do the same thing.

In 8 there is an additional button when you get ready to save,
"options", That allow you customize what and how you want saved. IN 7 it
more or less WYSIWYG.

I've used the feature once or twice (and works out well) on 7, when I
knew the original was a Word Document, but didn't have the original.
Even Pictures moved over okay.

John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh] wrote:
Hi Bob:

You're right, Reader is specifically designed to prevent people editing.
But they can't edit a Word document via PDF in any case: the result when it
comes back is not useable in Word.

This client needs to accept that if they send something in Word format, the
user can edit it and it can have a running header on each page. However,
the header will appear faded (to show that it is a header) unless they view
and edit it in Print Preview.

Editing in Print Preview is possible, but not recommended: it imposes savage
demands on the system which can result in crashes. And it's not intuitive:
you have to SHOW a user how to do it.

This is the way Word works...

The client needs to accept that if they send a PDF, to most purposes the
result can't be edited.

This is the way the world works :-)

Cheers

On 5/1/07 10:22 PM, in article C1C39F28.1C82A%onlygeneraltaz1@xxxxxxxxxxxx,
"CyberTaz" <onlygeneraltaz1@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Yessir - I believe you're right about that, but I didn't think it would
appeal to the OP because the reviewers would still be working in a .doc
where the logo/header would be just as faded as ever - No? They wouldn't be
able to edit the PDF with Reader, would they? I haven't really *used* Reader
in 3 years, so I honestly don't know.

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac



On 1/5/07 1:25 AM, in article C1C43A98.5760F%john@xxxxxxxxxxx, "John McGhie
[MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]" <john@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Bob:

I thought Acrobat enabled you to include a Word .doc copy of the PDF as
"baggage".

It does on the PC -- when you create a PDF from Word you get the option to
"include original".

This appears in the Adobe Reader sidebar, and the user can choose to save
and edit it.

Cheers


On 3/1/07 10:23 PM, in article C1C0FC6E.1C6E6%onlygeneraltaz1@xxxxxxxxxxxx,
"CyberTaz" <onlygeneraltaz1@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


On 1/2/07 11:52 PM, in article C1C181CC.57368%john@xxxxxxxxxxx, "John
McGhie
[MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]" <john@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

If the customer displays the page in Print Preview, the header will
appear
with full contrast.
As long as the image is set to In Line with Text. Wrapping options cause
it
to appear faded in Print Preview as well as in Page Layout View :-)
However, there is currently no way to force Word Mac to display a
document
in Print Preview.

If the appearance of the document is that important, the customer should
indeed be sending the final result as a PDF. If they have the latest
version of Acrobat, they can include an editable version of the document
in
the PDF.
My sentiments exactly... Unfortunately it requires each potential editor
to
have access to Acrobat, which could be an expensive proposition. Seems
like
a steep price just to avoid what should be a simple explanation :-)
Cheers


On 2/1/07 10:34 PM, in article
1167737654.938946.28850@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "amie"
<amienorman@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I am a graphic designer and this is an on going problem I have when
making electronic letterheads for clients. Generally I put the logo in
a header and explain to clients that is only faded on screen but will
print ok or they can make a PDF of the document to email to their
clients (which has the bonus that it is uneditable). However I am
currently working on a project were the client wants to send editable
word documents with the logo apperaing full colour and on every new
page. Any ideas?

Thanks!

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac



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