Re: Printing in Office 2004 vs. Office X
- From: "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]" <john@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 22:49:08 +1100
How much of a change are we talking about here?
Word X and Word 2004 both use the Mac operating system to render fonts and
draw the screen, but they use different mechanisms.
Word X uses QuickDraw, which does not support Unicode. Word 2004 uses ATSUI
(Apple Type Services for Unicode Interface). These two are similar but
there is a slight difference in rendering: one to three per cent, depending
on the way the characters in fonts are hinted and rendered.
If your document is correctly formatted (i.e. Your styles are properly
defined to produce a stable document) you won't see the difference. If it
isn't, you will indeed get text moving from page to page and margin
turnovers at a different point on the line.
If you want, we could tell you how to set up your styles so you get almost
exactly the same results regardless of which version of Word you use, Mac or
PC, from Word 97 all the way to Word 2007.
Post back if you need this.
On 23/11/06 5:00 AM, in article
1164218430.099436.61940@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "drgooply"
<drgooply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Nope. Did all that you suggested. Still, when I open, in Word 2004,
the document that was created in Word X, and print it, the font and the
margins are different. I could adjust the font and the margins, I
suppose, but then the page count is completely off.
I am still open to suggestions.
THank you.
Dr.G.
CyberTaz wrote:
OK, now that you've gotten 'round to what I originally suggested :-), let's
proceed...
Even if you've done any of this previously;
1- Go to the Apple web site & download the 10.4.8 Combo updater for Intel
which you will find here:
http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/macosx1048updateintel.html
2- Run Disk Utility - Repair Disk Permissions after updating
(if you're not familiar with it, your Applications folder contains a
Utilities folder, within which you'll find the utility program called Disk
Utility. Select your HD in the left list & click Repair Disk Permissions -
should take ~ 1-2 mins.)
3- Go to the Mactopia site & download the 11.3 Combo updater:
http://www.microsoft.com/mac/
4- Run Disk Utility - Repair Disk Permissions after installing
5- Restart your Mac
6- Crank up Word 2003 to see if we've made any progress - let us know either
way.
--
Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
"drgooply" <drgooply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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(Forgive me if this posts twice. I am not skilled at posting to a
group.)
I have now done everything suggested. I disabled the duplicate fonts
with the higher version number, and I also uninstalled and reinstalled
my printer software, after hearing from HP that the software needed to
be upgraded for the Intel Macs.
And still, the document created in Office X does not print correctly in
Office 2004. The font and the margins are all wrong. This is a 417 p.
document that represents 5 years of work. It needs to be presented
properly. Thank heavens I did not trash Office X.
I am open to any other suggestions.
Thank you
Dr.G.
drgooply wrote:
Please disregard this. Soon as it posted, I found the version number.
Will try your suggestion. Thanks.
d.
drgooply wrote:
Thank you. Live and learn. THere is indeed a dot next to the font I
am using (Times New Roman.) And when I expand it, there is a dot next
to Bold, Bold Italic, Italic and Regular. There are duplicates of each
of these. I am not able, however to "hover over" each one to see the
version number. Should I just disable the ones with the dot? How can
I find the version number?
Thanks for your help
Dr.G.
Beth Rosengard wrote:
Font Book is an Apple application which you should find in your user
Applications folder. It comes with the system (OS X).
Beth
On 11/20/06 10:42 PM, in article
1164091366.069936.249440@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "drgooply"
<drgooply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
What do you mean, "Open the FontBook application?"
Beth Rosengard wrote:
It could be because Office 2004 uses some different (Unicode)
fonts than
Office X, even though the names are the same (like Times New
Roman). If
that's the case, you *may* be able to solve the problem by using
FontBook to
disable the Unicode version of the font. That would force Office
2004 to
use the same version as Office X.
Open the FontBook application. On the left, select All Fonts and
navigate
to the font you've used in the document. If there's a dot to the
right of
the font name, then you have duplicate versions.
Click on the expand arrow to the left of the font name. Hover
over each
duplicate to see a balloon which will give you the font's version
number.
Disable the dupe with the highest version number by selecting it
and
clicking Disable.
Now try printing again and see if it makes a difference.
By the way, Unicode fonts have many more characters available than
non-Unicode fonts, so you'll probably want to re-enable the
Unicode version
of the font when you're done printing the doc.
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Beth Rosengard
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Mac Word FAQ: <http://word.mvps.org/Mac/WordMacHome.html>
My Site: <http://www.bethrosengard.com>
On 11/20/06 2:28 PM, in article
1164061724.492949.173480@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "drgooply"
<drgooply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I am trying to print a document that was created in Office X.
When I
open that document in Office 2004 and print it, it looks
different on
the page - different margins. When I look at it in Print
Preview, it
looks as it should. None of the margins in the document have
been
changed. It just looks different printed in 2004. Fortunately,
I can
still open the document in Office X and print it out that way,
but of
course I would prefer not to have to do that. When I installed
Office
2004, I did it by uninstalling the Test Drive program, and doing
a
standard (not custom) install. What do I need to do to ensure
the
document prints properly in 2004?
Thank you
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