Re: Macro for table problems

Hello John,

My heartfelt sympathies (and concurrence with your query at the end; either
you are not being over-romantic or there are many other "over-romantics"
around) ...

Seeing you are doing a fair bit of posting here (and with interesting
questions, I'd add), you would be better off using newsreader software or
Entourage. Foremost among the advantages is that the posts appear in
(almost) real time.

Notes on the advantages, and how to configure Entourage for this purpose are
at page 23 of "Bend Word to Your Will", available as a free download from
the Word MVPs' website
(http://word.mvps.org/Mac/Bend/BendWordToYourWill.html).

Cheers,
Clive Huggan
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On 20/10/06 8:53 PM, in article
1161341582.315181.244290@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "john@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"
<john@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Many thanks to you all for the explanations and the hard work you're
putting in.

Because I had problems accessing the MVP pages with Safari (I didn't
know that I had to reload several times), I used Firefox just to be
able to see answers, although I couldn't print them all (apart from
first page), and so I'm been using this site from Firefox.

This hasn't help me to access the advice you've been giving on the
Macro for Table Problems. But at least now I know how to from Safari.
I've also been delayed from trying out your advice on the Table problem
because my iMac stopped working properly, eventually Apple agreed to
replace it, and the brand new replacement iMac wouldn't connect with
the WWW. After much "diagnostics" with AppleCare, they concluded that
the new iMac had hardware problems. They have just replaced it (albeit
one with a German keyboard) and so I hope now, after so long, to try
and implement your solutions. (Am I being overromantic in thinking
that Apple standards were higher before Apple morphed into an iPod
maker?)

Thanks again

John


John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh] wrote:
Thanks Daiya:

Yep: Frames are gone :-) Nearly 80 per cent of the site is now converted.

The original poster just happened to pick three of the pages that are "not"
yet converted :-)

Given that we're just about to have to re-write most of them, I am not
burning up my entire weekends and late nights on this :-)

Cheers


On 20/10/06 6:39 AM, in article C15D3097.7F08F%daiyaNOSPAM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
"Daiya Mitchell" <daiyaNOSPAM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Yep. The frames were settled on by someone else, probably 10 years ago?
Maybe only 6 or so? Back when frames were state of the art, anyhow. Beth
redesigned the Mac portion of the site, but the rest of the site has
thousands of pages, is maintained by one volunteer (John McGhie), and needs
updated content for Word 2007 anyhow. Long process to redo it, and little
help.

Daiya



On 10/19/06 1:05 PM, "Phillip Jones" wrote:

I've been working off and on with a website designer that does so for a
living to help redesign our site (OssingingDesignGuild). And he says
using frames is poor design to be avoided if possible. If you want to
limit contents so that it only takes up so much space, you can do much
better with tables instead and make the cell padding nothing.

Beth Rosengard wrote:
Hi John,

Paul and John have explained the Safari issue so I won't go into that.
But

...

I can confirm the Firefox printing issue! As I told you before, Safari
will
print all three pages (and now that you know how to access the article in
Safari, it should for you too). Yet Firefox will print only one page. I

even changed the printing option from 'print all pages' to 'print pages 1
to
3' and it still printed just one page.

My guess would be that this has something to do with how Firefox deals
with
frames (yes, another frames issue). The reason I think so is that Firefox
prints the site footer at the bottom of that single page while Safari
doesn't print the footer until the end of the article. IOW, the footer
frame is fooling Firefox into thinking the article ends at the bottom of
the
visible window.

Sorry about this, but I don't think there's anything we can do to fix this
on our end (other than continue to convert the old frames site to the new
CSS design). It's a bug in Firefox (that will probably never be fixed
since
layouts using frames are fading in favor of CSS layouts).

Beth


On 10/17/06 11:49 AM, in article
1161110967.221565.253250@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "john@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"

<john@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Beth

This is a mystery. I print out other long articles from other sites
with no problem.

But if I paste

http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customization/AutoText.htm

into Safari I get a blank screen.

If I paste into Firefox I get the full article. But if I try and print
I get only the first page. The Print Preview looks weird. I've done
a window grab of the image and will try and attach it to this message.

Thanks

John

Snapshot 2006-10-17 19-42-09.tiff

PS: It only seems to want to paste the title and not the file.

Beth Rosengard wrote:
Hi John,

I can't reproduce this. I just accessed the article you referenced
below
from Safari and printed it ­ all of it (3 pages worth). I have to
believe
that there's something in your system (printer setup or driver,
perhaps?)
that's preventing these articles from printing out properly. Can you
print
long articles from other sites without any problem?

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John McGhie <john@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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