Re: Word 2004 + Macintel + Some Adobe OpenType Fonts = Crash on save

Hi Geoff:

Yes, I find it interesting, too. I suspect that it stands to reason, in
that the property store is where the preview image (and all the other images
in the document) are stored.

Cheers

On 20/9/06 2:13 PM, in article
1158725587.486445.231380@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "gruth"
<geoffruth@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Clive,

Yes, I am aware of the difference between the two. I didn't specify
that I was aware of the difference -- I do think it's interesting that
selecting all and copying doesn't include the preview image or whatever
it is that causes Word to go ape***.

- Geoff

Clive Huggan wrote:
Good to know that copying all the text including the last paragraph mark
worked in this instance, Geoff, but for other contexts it's very important
to acknowledge the significance of making a selection without the final
paragraph mark if you want to remove the most frequently occurring sources
of document corruption.

It's not the actual paragraph mark itself that is significant but rather the
several hundred instructions relating to the document that lie, invisibly,
beyond that final paragraph mark. De-selecting the final paragraph mark
(Command-a then Shift-LeftArrow is the most reliable way), then copying and
pasting the selection into a new blank document allows the new document to
provide the new [uncorrupted] end-of-document instructions.

So the difference between what you have done and doing the same without the
last paragraph mark is way beyond being a "technical" difference -- albeit
you've discovered that the end-of-document instructions weren't involved in
this instance.

Cheers,

Clive Huggan
Canberra, Australia
(My time zone is 5-11 hours different from the US and Europe, so my
follow-on responses to those regions can be delayed)
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On 20/9/06 10:37 AM, in article
1158712629.055590.263340@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "gruth"
<geoffruth@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Yes, it works.

Actually, I just select all, copy the text, paste into a new document.
I'm told this isn't technically a maggie, but it work for me.

Something even weirder is that with a few old Word documents, the
program has started to crash (in the weird way we're all talking about)
even before I save. It's not consistent, but seems limited to certain
documents that have a lot of chemical equations and thus text
formatting in them.So far it's only happened with a couple files, and
as I said, it's not consistnet -- but when it occurs, the same crash
cascade involving other applications occurs.

This thing just keeps getting weirder.

PPS Does "Maggification" work for you? As in "to Maggie": Create a less
corrupt document by copying all bar the last pilcrow into a fresh one.

It worked on your assignment *** here. However, I got my first kernel
panic on the Mac Pro shortly after trying it again. Word/ATSUI *may*
have dropped a banana skin on the pavement.

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