Re: Serious Word Document Problems - Please, PLEASE Help! :(


Jeff Wiseman wrote:
> JosypenkoMJ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > I normally don't even want to think about and deal with the nonsense of
> > what Word is doing when it is corrupted (corrupt files here, there,
>
>
> I normally "don't want to think about and deal with the nonsense
> of what Word is doing" either :-) Unfortunately, if you want to
> use it successfully, you will have to learn some things about it...
>
> I believe that what JE McGimpsey was inferring (and I agree with)
> was that "Word" is not corrupted. Some files that it uses (e.g.,
> user preferences) have been corrupted and through Word's normal
> everyday buggy unstable behavior, it chokes to death when it
> tries to open such a file.
>
>
> > everywhere). It is far easier to treat it as any corrupted program and
> > simply reinstall it (although from what you said MS has changed the
>
>
> Because of the way OS X stores files, it is very unlikely that
> the application software itself is corrupted. The need for
> reinstalling programs of any sort due to corrupted applications
> the way you would in Windows or even early days Mac OS programs
> is pretty rare. In fact, doing so with many applications can
> actually introduce problems if it is not done exactly correct
> taking into account the correct removal of any earlier installs
> (Office for Mac is one of them). That is why installers are used
>
>
> > word install to mean partial install - no preferences. Not many these
> > days know how to call a spade a spade).
>
>
> Installs, in general, do NOT diddle with your preference files.
> If they did, everytime someone did an upgrade, they would have to
> reset absolutely everything which many people would object to
> (especially since it could include having to reconfigure all the
> styles and such in their Normal file). Especially on a multi-user
> system like OS X where you could conceptually have 40 different
> users all with their own preferences set up. Is an install
> supposed to seek out and destroy the preferences of everyone on
> the system? In general, no UNIX based application would ever do
> this as it violates the separation of user configurables and
> system configurables.
>
>
> > days know how to call a spade a spade). I don't even install - I just
> > recopy all the Word files from a backup.
>
>
> Depending on how you go about this, it could be the worse
> possible thing to do. Running a full recover on the entire system
> may be OK. Copying from a backup can change permissions and
> ownerships which can also create a nest of trouble.
>
>
>
> --
> Jeff Wiseman
> to reply, just remove ALLTHESPAM

I guess I don't need to worry about the Unix type of environment with
file permissions - OS is 9.2.2. Also not using shared software on a
network - environment is single user.
Before there were Mac's and then PC's, and third party software like
Word with dozens of files and individual installers putting files who
knows where (although lately there are installer logs), there were OS's
(eg. RT-11) where :

- there was only 1 installer, the system installer
- all programs other than user written ones were part of the OS. If one
got corrupted, such as the text editor, a person simply recopied it (1
file) from the original system disk - it would have been ridiculous to
rerun the OS installer.

I've had 1 situation of Quick Time 3.0 being corrupted every once in
a while on a 7300, OS 7.6._. PictureViewer would hang - replacing it
did nothing - I had to rerun the installer to replace everything.

> ... Unfortunately, if you want to use it successfully, you will have to learn some things about it...

Unfortunately, yes, althought an end user should not have to be
concerned about the inner workings of a product.
This is like a car manufacturer making a car with a loose timing belt
and expecting the driver every once in a while to have to take out his
wrenches from the trunk toolbox and reset the belt, after the engine
has skipped a tooth forcing the car to die in the middle of the road.

> .... Is an install supposed to seek out and destroy the preferences ...

Yes. If I install a new alternator in a car, I definitely would not
want any pieces of the old one remaining, which may be broken, worn
out, or burnt out.

.

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