Re: Anyway to make a paste special unformatted text single key stroke?
From: Tony (nospam_at_nospam.com)
Date: 03/25/05
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Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:07:17 +0100
John,
Absolutely right.
So that is why I asked for such features: I use (need) them a lot and
thought that everybody or most of the people would also love them...
Why does not Microsoft sets a web page poll to check out what customers
really want? Could be revealing.
Regards,
--- On 2005-03-25 12:38:46 +0100, "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]" <john@mcghie.name> said: > Hi Tony: > > Yes, you do need to transfer your customisations: I know this because I am a > documentation contractor -- I move from company to company, machine to > machine, frequently. So I have to do this. > > I carry my Normal template, a library of macros, and my custom dictionary > around with me on a USB data key. It's the work of moments to drop those > files into place on whatever machine I am working on that day. > > In my case, since I am working between versions and platforms, some of my > macros are full of #defines and #IfDefs to cope with the fact that they have > to run on six versions of Word and two platforms, but really it's not that > hard :-) > > I am not, by the way, insensitive to your request to have things available > "out of the box" or "standard from the manufacturer". The problem is that > no two of us could agree on exactly WHAT we would like to be "Standard", and > in order to fit more junk on the toolbars/menus we have to throw some stuff > out. What could "You" do with out? I Wrote an article once where I think I > said I delete 18 of the 24 buttons on one of Word's standard toolbars. I > suspect you would too: but not the "same" 18 :-) > > Right at the moment, in the user interface, what we are really pushing for > is a way to be able to properly customise the Task Pane (Formatting Palette > to us on the Mac). The Task Pane is actually a very powerful idea, but the > current implementation sux, and we can't get at it to fix it the way we can > fix the menus, toolbars and keystrokes. > > BTW: There's no point in asking for extra "keystrokes" in Word -- all the > available combinations are already taken :-) Mac OS reserves a wider range > of keystrokes for the system than Windows does, which stuffs us up a bit on > the Mac. > > Cheers > > > On 22/3/05 00:34, in article 2005032114340850073%nospam@nospamcom, "Tony" > <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: > >> John, >> >> Thanks. I did indeed... >> >> But I just wanted to suggest a way to have it standard from the >> manufacturer now and always. If you do it yourself customizing Word, >> that is OK for the moment, but when you re-install on the same or other >> Mac, or when new versions come out, you must re-do things. That is the >> way I see things. >> >> I do not know about other people, but I use the special paste as simple >> text hundreds of times every day! So a standard menu and command for it >> would be nice: >> >>>>>> Shift Comman C to copy unformatted text. >>>>>> Shift Comman V to paste unformatted text. >> >> And I tell you that because I know you have "power" on Microsoft >> development policies, so if I could "convince" you I am quite sure that >> it would be implemented... >> >> :-) >> >> Regards, >> >> --- >> On 2005-03-21 10:43:49 +0100, "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word >> Macintosh]" <john@mcghie.name> said: >> >>> They have -- it's up to you to read the Help :-) >>> >>> You can put anything you like on the menus, or keyboard commands. >>> >>> However, if you had thought a minute about what I wrote in my response, you >>> may have understood that it does both. >>> >>> That is the Users helping other Users way. >>> >>> On 20/3/05 04:00, in article 2005031918001243658%nospam@nospamcom, "Tony" >>> <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: >>> >>>> John, >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> It would be good if Microsoft could implement it also as keyboard >>>> commands and as menu options. >>>> >>>> That is the Mac way. >>>> >>>> --- >>>> On 2005-03-19 12:56:23 +0100, "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word >>>> Macintosh]" <john@mcghie.name> said: >>>> >>>>> Hi Tony: >>>>> >>>>> That's exactly what I use (I normally use the INSERT key to paste as >>>>> Formatted, and Command + V to paste as unformatted). >>>>> >>>>> Copy Robert's macro, put it in your Normal template, and name it EditPaste. >>>>> Most Word "commands" are actually macros. If you have a macro of the same >>>>> name, its functionality replaces the command. >>>>> >>>>> I actually use two macros: >>>>> >>>>> Sub EditPaste() >>>>> On Error GoTo notAvailable >>>>> >>>>> Selection.PasteSpecial Link:=False, DataType:=20 >>>>> End >>>>> >>>>> notAvailable: >>>>> Selection.Paste >>>>> End Sub >>>>> >>>>> Sub EditPasteFormatted() >>>>> >>>>> Selection.Paste >>>>> End Sub >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The first macro uses a very crude "On Error" method of trapping the >>>>> condition where "plain text" is not one of the formats available on the >>>>> clipboard. It's crude, but it works: and saves you having to successively >>>>> try each option to find out what the hell *is* on the clipboard. >>>>> >>>>> VBA does not have a way to examine the clipboard to see what actually is >>>>> there. There is usually a selection of formats (can be five or six, >>>>> depending on the application you copied from). This can be a little >>>>> character building, because the "data" is not actually ON the clipboard of >>>>> the source application is still open. There's just a pointer to it, and >>>>> the >>>>> source application then produces the data to the clipboard in the format >>>>> you >>>>> request when you ask for it. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 15/3/05 05:16, in article 2005031419163416807%nospam@nospamcom, "Tony" >>>>> <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> The best would be a keyboard shortcut: >>>>>> >>>>>> Shift Comman C to copy unformatted text. >>>>>> Shift Comman V to paste unformatted text. >>>>>> >>>>>> As appliations like Eudora 6 do. >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2005-03-14 16:15:24 +0100, matt@tidbits.com (matt neuburg) said: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Robert M. Lewis <SPAMFREElewis@SPAMmun.caFREE> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 11/3/05 2:02 PM, in article 1gt9697.p4tjra17sxa5kN%matt@tidbits.com, >>>>>>>> "matt neuburg" <matt@tidbits.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> When I paste special it is virtually always unformatted text. I have >>>>>>>>>> tried through customization (but it is not an option there) and macros >>>>>>>>>> (they don't work, they just paste with all the formatting as well) to >>>>>>>>>> make a single key stroke, e.g., shift-command v, to paste text only? >>>>>>>>>> Entourage actually allows you to, so it is odd that Word doesn't. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> BTW, the macro as I recorded it is: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sub Pastetext() >>>>>>>>>> ' >>>>>>>>>> ' Pastetext Macro >>>>>>>>>> ' Macro recorded 10/3/05 by Robert M. Lewis >>>>>>>>>> ' >>>>>>>>>> Selection.PasteSpecial Link:=False, DataType:=wdPasteText, >>>>>>>>>> Placement:= _ wdInLine, DisplayAsIcon:=False >>>>>>>>>> End Sub >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That can be shortened, but yes, that's exactly how I do it. Works fine. >>>>>>>>> What's the problem you're having? m. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It doesn't paste unformatted text, the text is formatted. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What if you choose Paste Special > Unformatted? Does that give a >>>>>>> different result from what this macro gives, when copying the same >>>>>>> material from the same source? m.
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