Re: Times New Roman open type-- Czech?

From: Paul Berkowitz (berkowit_at_spoof_silcom.com)
Date: 03/08/05 

Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 13:59:21 -0800

That's precisely why the discussion was being limited to Word X and earlier,
Klaus. Word 2004 is the first Unicode version of the Mac. Matt had already
explained that Word 2004 handles Czech just fine, and deduced that gweno
must be using Word X or earlier. Daiya introduced the topic of CE fonts
specifically for pre-2004, but without much detail. I supplied the detail.

The reiterate, Word 2004 handles Czech and a good many other languages just
fine, being Unicode supporting. 

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**2004**, X  or 2001. It's often impossible to answer your questions
otherwise.
> From: Klaus Linke <info@fotosatz-kaufmann.de>
> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.mac.office.word
> Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 21:18:37 +0100
> Subject: Re: Times New Roman open type-- Czech?
> 
> As an aside:
> 
> I might be wrong for the Mac, but on the PC, there usually isn't really a
> "physical" CE font.
> The "Times New Roman CE" (or "Times New Roman Greek, Cyr, Baltic, ...") only
> appears in non-Unicode programs, and means that a subset of the regular "Times
> New Roman" font for the corresponding "Central European" code page has been
> selected.
> It's simply a mapping for old programs (that only can deal with single byte
> characters) to get at the 1000+ characters in "Times New Roman" and other
> Unicode (or more technical: "Windows Glyph List 4") fonts.
> 
> Regards,
> Klaus
> 
> 
> 
> "Paul Berkowitz" <berkowit@spoof_silcom.com> wrote:
>> In fact, you probably don't even need Times New Roman CE font as such. As
>> long as you have _any_ CE font, Word should do a font substitution of
>> necessary. And how do you get the CE fonts? It's quite easy:
>> 
>> If you are in OS 10.2 or 10.3, insert your OS CD. You might be able to do
>> this with just the optional 3rd CD, without having to boot from the first OS
>> CD. There should be a .mkpg file called "Additional Languages". Launch it.
>> If you can't find that one, or it doesn't help, you'll need to insert the
>> first OS CD, launch  Install Mac OS 10.x, and when it restarts, choose
>> Customize (when you get to that screen) and select _just_ Additional
>> Languages or the particular Central European languages if you wish. Deselect
>> everything else that's already been installed, You should be able to click
>> an Upgrade button. After installation, you'll find the Central European
>> languages, including Czech, available. (If there's any chance that you might
>> need to edit these documents, you should add Czech to the Input languages
>> you want in System  Preferences/International/Input Menu, - called "Keyboard
>> Menu", I think, in 10.2). You should know be able to see the docs complete
>> with Czech diacritics. The font might be Times CE rather than Times New
>> Roman CE, if you're in  Entourage X, but should still be correct.
>> 
>> If you're still in OS 9 and/or Word 2001 (including Classic within OS X),
>> insert the OS 9 CD and do a similar Customize installation, just for
>> Language Kits/Central European. (I'm not sure if there would be a problem
>> should you happen to have one of the new Macs that can't boot in OS 9 but
>> you use Office 2001 in Classic. Maybe. Upgrade to Office 2004 or X in that
>> case.)
>> 
>> -- 
>> Paul Berkowitz
>> MVP MacOffice
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>> PLEASE always state which version of Microsoft Office you are using -
>> **2004**, X  or 2001. It's often impossible to answer your questions
>> otherwise.
>> 
>> 
>>> From: Daiya Mitchell <daiyaNOSPAM@mvps.org.INVALID>
>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.mac.office.word
>>> Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2005 07:26:47 -0800
>>> Subject: Re: Times New Roman open type-- Czech?
>>> 
>>> There is a Times New Roman CE (for Central Europe) font, that I think you
>>> need, and you don't need Word 2004 for it. Use Google groups to search this
>>> newsgroup for posts by Andreas Prilop, and you will find more and better
>>> information in his posts and/or in the threads he posts in, some of the
>>> subject lines should be relevant to your problem--or he or someone else may
>>> come along and help you more specifically, as I am by no means an expert in
>>> this area.
>>> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/microsoft.public.mac.office.word
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 3/5/05 5:19 PM,  "gweno" wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Help!
>>>> 
>>>> I am working with translators in the Czech Republic, they send
>>>> documents in times new roman open type, but the diacritics are missing.
>>>> 
>>>> How can I get this font for my mac?
>>>> 
>>>> I've tried using other fonts that are on the mac and converting the
>>>> document, but it doesn't help.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm new to the whole concept and don't know where to turn.
>>>> 
>>>> THANKS!
>>>> 
>>>> Gwen
>>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>