Re: Unicode Word 2004 and Windows.

From: Paul Berkowitz (berkowit_at_spoof_silcom.com)
Date: 11/23/04 

Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 06:59:59 -0800

On 11/22/04 11:48 PM, in article BDC82B54.7BA25%berkowit@spoof_silcom.com,
"Paul Berkowitz" <berkowit@spoof_silcom.com> wrote:

> On 11/22/04 11:17 PM, in article BDC92F1E.D36D%john@mcghie.name, "John McGhie"
> <john@mcghie.name> wrote:
>
>> > The exceptions are Times New Roman, and Arial. The Mac versions of those
>> > are both "expanded" fonts with 512 characters. However, Arial Unicode MS
>> > contains 32,000 characters, so as you can see we are still a way short of
>> > having everything.
>
> Actually, the Mac MS Unicode fonts are Times New Roman, Verdana, Trebuchet MS,
> and one of the Asian fonts (I always forget which - MS PMincho or MS PGothic,
> I think). The assertion that these fonts have "512 characters" is absurd,
> John. They have thousands upon thousands of characters, but not the 32,000 of
> Arial Unicode MS. (Lucida Grande, an Apple font, has more than they do, still
> not the full 32,000 in Panther, but this font is unknown on Windows.)

Well, I was taking your word for the "32,000 characters". I've done a bit of
research. Alan Wood (<http://www.alanwood.net/unicode/fonts.html>) says that
Arial Unicode MS (as of Word 2002, Office XP) has all the characters of the
Unicode 2.0 standard - 51,180 characters (
http://www.alanwood.net/unicode/fonts.html#arialunicodems). In the
meantime, Unicode has now reached version 4.0.1 and now has 96,447
characters <http://www.unicode.org/standard/principles.html> .

I don't know how many characters Times New Roman, Verdana and Trebuchet MS
Unicode versions have. They may be confined to Western European characters
with some variants - I think you must have been a lot closer with your "512"
than I expected. Apologies. TNR and Verdana are hardly to be found even in
the Latin Extended-A set of the Character Palette - Latin characters with
accents and diacritics of Central European languages. Trebuchet MS does
appear there sporadically, and MS PMincho and MS PGothic very prevalent
there and in many other character sets. (Lucida Grande is everywhere, and
even several other Apple fonts are very prevalent, but that doesn't help for
Word where you'd want only MS fonts that will be found also in Word
Windows.) 

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