Re: Word Documents Sent as Attachements
From: Fredrik Wahlgren (fredrik.p.wahlgren_at_mailbox.swipnet.se)
Date: 10/27/04
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 01:29:43 +0200
"Beth Rosengard" <bethrosengard@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:BDA575D9.3FC0%bethrosengard@earthlink.net...
> Hi Steve,
>
> Very interesting!
>
> First, the attachment you sent me and John did *look* like a Word
document;
> but when opened in BBEdit (the only app that would open it), the code that
> displayed failed to include "word.document.{a number, like 8}" which meant
> it was not in Word document format. I'm sure the same would be true of
the
> one you sent to yourself if you looked at the underlying code.
>
> Now, in regard to the chopped off attachments ... Yes!!! That does
explain
> at least most of it. If the received attachment has been truncated, then
it
> would be missing the last paragraph mark. Since the last paragraph mark
> "carries" the document format (among other things), then the
word.document.8
> identifier would be missing and Word would not recognize the file as a
Word
> document regardless of the fact that it was created in Word and looks
like
> a Word file! So this completely explains that part of it.
>
> Here's what I'm not so sure of. Your "Partially receive..." option
explains
> why *you* can't open these Word attachments, but it doesn't explain why
*I*
> couldn't open the one you sent me, unless what you did was to send the
same
> file that you had sent to yourself (and which was therefore truncated
before
> you sent it to me). Is that what you did? If so, then mysteries solved!
>
> However, if what you sent me was attached directly from the full Word file
> itself, then it should have been fine when I received it ... unless (!)
you
> have some other setting that isn't allowing you to *send* a file over 2
KB.
> So please let me know exactly what it was that you sent me. And just for
> fun, send me another Word file. Let's see if I can open it now.
>
> I'm glad we're finally getting to the bottom of this and it sure is a good
> thing that you noticed that setting :-)!
>
> Cheers,
>
> --
> ***Please always reply to the newsgroup!***
>
> Beth Rosengard
> Mac MVP
>
> Mac Word FAQ: <http://word.mvps.org/MacWordNew/index.htm>
> Entourage Help Page: <http://www.entourage.mvps.org>
>
>
>
> On 10/27/04 10:23 AM, in article
> f9a1f501.0410270923.264814a3@posting.google.com, "Stephen G."
> <gorevan@honeybeerobotics.com> wrote:
>
> > Beth and John,
> >
> > First, thanks for your attention on this matter. I have been only
> > more stumped about this problem when I read that John did not even
> > receive what he recognized as a Word document from my mailing. That
> > was distressing since I am certain I sent him (and Beth and myself) a
> > Word document. However, last night upon returning from travel,
> > something has happened. Since I took the laptop out of the box I have
> > been having this problem. And for the umpteenth time I have checked
> > my Entourage preferences (in a manner similar to Beth's original
> > suggestion). But what I had neglected to check was my (IMAP) Server
> > Options in my Account Settings. There I discovered that the box
> > "Partially recieve messages over 2 kb" checked. I unchecked this box
> > and now I seem to be able open Word documents that I send myself, jpgs
> > are coming in unmolested as well. The setting at 2 kb was probably so
> > small that even my 3 word test documents that I sent to Beth got
> > hungup. So does this explain why the test attachments you and John
> > recieved did not appear to be Word documents? How that happened is
> > not at all clear to me. But I suppose we have all learned something.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Steve G.
> >
> >
> >
> > John McGhie <john@mcghie.name> wrote in message
> > news:<BDA18286.BB55%john@mcghie.name>...
> >> Hi Stephen:
> >>
> >> Beth sent me a copy of that document: I don't know what you did to it,
but
> >> internally, it's not a Word Document!
> >>
> >> Send me a direct email, please: with NO attachments (otherwise it will
> >> disappear forever in the Spam Filter).
> >>
> >> I want to try a few things...
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >>
> >> On 23/10/04 2:31 AM, in article
> >> f9a1f501.0410220831.7e3ffbe8@posting.google.com, "Stephen G."
> >> <gorevan@honeybeerobotics.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Beth,
> >>>
> >>> I have resent the test attachment with "Stephen's Attachment" in the
> >>> subject line. Thanks.
> >>>
> >>> Steve
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> gorevan@honeybeerobotics.com (Stephen G.) wrote in message
> >>> news:<f9a1f501.0410211550.46410d44@posting.google.com>...
> >>>> Hi Beth,
> >>>>
> >>>> I have just noticed that in transferring a picture from my old laptop
> >>>> to the new that I cannot open an attached JPEG in addition to not
> >>>> being able to open Microsoft produced documents.
> >>>>
> >>>> Best Regards,
> >>>> Steve
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Beth Rosengard <bethrosengard@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >>>> news:<BD9D3B2A.3B12%bethrosengard@earthlink.net>...
> >>>>> Hi Stephen,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Did you put "Stephen's Attachment" in the title of the email? I'm
afraid
> >>>>> I
> >>>>> can't find it. If I trashed it by mistake, I apologize, but you'd
better
> >>>>> send it again.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> ***Please always reply to the newsgroup!***
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Beth Rosengard
> >>>>> Mac MVP
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Mac Word FAQ: <http://word.mvps.org/MacWordNew/index.htm>
> >>>>> Entourage Help Page: <http://www.entourage.mvps.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 10/21/04 8:01 AM, in article
> >>>>> f9a1f501.0410210701.1975e0d0@posting.google.com, "Stephen G."
> >>>>> <gorevan@honeybeerobotics.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Beth,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have sent an email with a Word attachment to you to your email
> >>>>>> address separately.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Best Regards,
> >>>>>> Steve
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Beth Rosengard <bethrosengard@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >>>>>> news:<BD9C3D29.3A6E%bethrosengard@earthlink.net>...
> >>>>>>> Hi Stephen,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I was afraid my suggestions weren't going to work. Just for
future
> >>>>>>> reference though, in Entourage, open a new message window as if
you're
> >>>>>>> going
> >>>>>>> to send an email to someone. See the little arrow next to the
word
> >>>>>>> Attachments? Click on it and the Attachments box will expand.
Directly
> >>>>>>> underneath it is the "Encode for any computer..." line. Click on
it and
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> attachment options will open. The difference is that if you
change
> >>>>>>> encoding
> >>>>>>> here, as opposed to in Preferences, it will apply only to the
current
> >>>>>>> message; in Preferences it would become the default.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Now, back to your problem. How are you trying to open the
attachments?
> >>>>>>> Have you tried saving one to your desktop and then using File>
Open from
> >>>>>>> within Word to open it?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Why don't you send one of these attachments to me and let me see
what I
> >>>>>>> can
> >>>>>>> make of it. Put "Stephen's Attachment" in the subject line or
your
> >>>>>>> email
> >>>>>>> will get thrown out with the trash. And if you're a virus writer
> >>>>>>> looking
> >>>>>>> for a sucker to test a virus on the Mac, curses on you :-).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> ***Please always reply to the newsgroup!***
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Beth Rosengard
> >>>>>>> Mac MVP
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Mac Word FAQ: <http://word.mvps.org/MacWordNew/index.htm>
> >>>>>>> Entourage Help Page: <http://www.entourage.mvps.org>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 10/20/04 12:15 PM, in article
> >>>>>>> f9a1f501.0410201115.49be6eb6@posting.google.com, "Stephen G."
> >>>>>>> <gorevan@honeybeerobotics.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Beth,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I successfully ran the disk permission repair from the Disk
Utility
> >>>>>>>> but no luck. Any other ideas?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Best Regards,
> >>>>>>>> Steve
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Beth Rosengard <bethrosengard@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>> news:<BD9A942D.3967%bethrosengard@earthlink.net>...
> >>>>>>>>> Hi Stephen,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I sure haven't heard this one before. What version of Word are
you
> >>>>>>>>> in?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> What email client are you using? If it's Entourage, expand the
> >>>>>>>>> Attachments
> >>>>>>>>> pane (click the arrow next to Attachments and then click on the
line
> >>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>> says "Encode for any computer (AppleDouble) ...") and then be
sure you
> >>>>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>> "append file extensions" checked. If you're in another client,
look
> >>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>> an
> >>>>>>>>> equivalent command or, in the Word Save/Save As dialog, check
"append
> >>>>>>>>> file
> >>>>>>>>> extension" or just type .doc after the name of the file. Now try
> >>>>>>>>> sending
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> file.doc to your self again. Any better?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Also, try repairing disk permissions using the Disk Utility.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>> ***Please always reply to the newsgroup!***
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Beth Rosengard
> >>>>>>>>> Mac MVP
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Mac Word FAQ: <http://word.mvps.org/MacWordNew/index.htm>
> >>>>>>>>> Entourage Help Page: <http://www.entourage.mvps.org>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 10/19/04 9:24 AM, in article
> >>>>>>>>> f9a1f501.0410190824.462b7368@posting.google.com, "Stephen G."
> >>>>>>>>> <gorevan@honeybeerobotics.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> With my brand new G4 laptop I am not able to open any Word
documents
> >>>>>>>>>> electronically mailed to me as attachments. Even if I send a
Word
> >>>>>>>>>> document to myself, when I try to open it I am confronted with:
"Word
> >>>>>>>>>> cannot open this document. The doucment might be in use or
might not
> >>>>>>>>>> be a valid Word document". Seems like I have missed something
and I
> >>>>>>>>>> would welcome any advice to help solve my problem. Thanks.
>
If you compress the document using stuffit or ZipIt (Can't remember the
name) then the file should come thru properly. It may be a good idea to send
both the file as it is and the compressed version. I uess there are tools
that can do a binary comparison to see where the files differ. Something
like the Windows program Beyond Compare. Maybe BBEdit can do this?
/ Fredrik
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