Re: Fit Word 2004 window to page & contents?

From: Tony (nospam_at_nospam.com)
Date: 08/25/04 

Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 17:04:46 +0200

Clive,

Thanks.

I have sent them the suggestion. 

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On 2004-08-25 13:56:37 +0200, Clive Huggan 
<REMOVETHISoffice@ANDTHISstrategists.com.au> said:
> 
> 
> 
> On 25/8/04 5:58 PM, in article 2004082509582316807%nospam@nospamcom, "Tony"
> <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
> 
>> Clive,
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>>> 
>>> Word 2004 installation in OS 10.3.4.  Presumably your 22" shows more space
>>> than that unoccupied by the document?
>> 
>> Precisely so. At 200% zoom (usually after clicking the green expand
>> button on top left of all windows), Word 2004 either truncates the
>> right side of the document or expands to full screen horizontally
>> taking much more screen area horizontally than needed (blue left and
>> right bars between the actual page boundary and the window frame) to
>> show the document contents.
>> 
>> I just want one click and fit window to contents at the previously
>> specified zoom. And no zoom changing on that process. And if then I
>> change zoom, then that fitting process should automatically take place
>> again.
>> 
>> Even better: not even one click required. Opening any document (Word or
>> whatever; even imported from other suurces) should make Word 2004 to
>> automatically fit window to contents FOR THAT PARTICULAR MONITOR. And
>> if I change the zoom later on, again automatically make such adjustment.
>> 
>> Thus, always and automatically fit window to contents. AND NEVER CHANGE
>> THE ZOOM AUTOMATICALLY. LET THE USER DO IT.
>> 
>> No need for a macro or 200% button then.
> 
> Understood.
>> 
>> That is possible, since other word processors do it (see my previous
>> posts).
> 
> That certainly had penetrated!  ;-)
> 
>> Only if Micrtosoft would implement it...
> 
> And I guess that means you have, or will, put in a suggestion via your Help
> menu?  I'm told MacBU staff members *do* look at every suggestion, and value
> what they read in this newsgroup. But the chances of having it logged in are
> probably higher by your going via the Help menu.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Clive Huggan
> Canberra, Australia
> ===================
>> 
>> Thanks again,
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> On 2004-08-25 08:57:39 +0200, Clive Huggan
>> <REMOVETHISoffice@ANDTHISstrategists.com.au> said:
>> 
>>> Thanks for your comprehensive description, Tony. Comments inline.
>>> 
>>> Clive
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 24/8/04 8:58 PM, in article 2004082412585916807%nospam@nospamcom, "Tony"
>>> <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Clive,
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> I have tried it, yet it still requires manual dragging of the bottom
>>>> right window corner towards the right to expand more than the document
>>>> contents and then applying the other tricks. Then it works, but
>>>> precisely such manual dragging steps are the ones that I want to avoid
>>>> because they must be performed for each single Word file open that does
>>>> show this problem.
>>> 
>>>> As previously said, other word processors do it
>>>> right with a single click.
>>> 
>>> And so does mine in Word and, I presume, those of other posters to this
>>> thread. Therein lies the problem, eh?
>>>> 
>>>> Note that the problem also arises because I am using very large
>>>> widescreen TFT monitors (all Apple Cinema Displays 22, 23 and
>>>> 30-inches).
>>> 
>>> I have a 17" Apple display, on which the Word doc expands to fill the whole
>>> screen on first clicking the green Expand button. Thereafter it toggles
>>> between the small size and the last manually changed size (except for where
>>> there are toolbars). I've just called a friend who has a 22" screen and one
>>> of her docs expanded likewise except for about 1.5 centimetres at the
>>> right-hand side of the screen (no apparent explanation). Hers is a default
>>> Word 2004 installation in OS 10.3.4.  Presumably your 22" shows more space
>>> than that unoccupied by the document?
>>>> 
>>>> This is what I did:
>>>> 
>>>> 1 - Open a Word file with text on "View/Page Layout".
>>>> 
>>>> 2 - Set Zoom to 200% (Toolbar Standard button). That truncates the
>>>> window on right and bottom sides.
>>>> 
>>>> 3 - Click the top left green (expansion) button of the window. That
>>>> expands OK tom-bottom (vertically) and also to the left, but not to the
>>>> right (horizontally).
>>> 
>>> That's where our experience diverges.
>>> 
>>>> Thus, contents on the right of the Word file are
>>>> not displayed (truncated), even though, as said, there is plenty of
>>>> screen area (widescreen) to the right.
>>>> 
>>>> Note also that I do not want the word document to take all the screen
>>>> horizontally all the times, but only what is required to show all
>>>> contents horizontally (which may or may not require the whole screen
>>>> horizontally).
>>> I doubt if that is possible, given Word's behaviour that we all observe
>>> (i.e., ignoring the particular idiosyncrasy on your computer).
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure, but someone here may be able to give you a macro that would
>>> specify the size of the window. That could be followed by the zoom size
>>> macro to which I pointed you.
>>>> 
>>>> 4 - If then I click the custom-made button "Zoom Page Width" (as Dayo
>>>> explained before on this thread), then the problem is that instead of
>>>> doing what I want (explained above), Word 2004 shrinks to 102% and that
>>>> fits OK all contents to a window, but not at 200% zoom, which is what I
>>>> want. At such 102% magnification the characters are too small to read
>>>> them properly. I want just that effect but keeping at 200%
>>>> magnification. That simple!
>>> 
>>> Well, it's easy enough to have a, say, 200% button.
>>>> 
>>>> 5 -If instead of step 4 above I click the custom-made button "One Page"
>>>> (as Dayo explained before on this thread), then the same issue
>>>> described in step 4 arises.
>>>> 
>>>> I wish Microsoft addresses this issue soon.
>>> 
>>> Tell them via your Help menu and they will hear.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks again.