Re: Fit Word 2004 window to page & contents?

From: Tony (nospam_at_nospam.com)
Date: 08/24/04 

Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 12:58:59 +0200

Clive,

Thanks.

I have tried it, yet it still requires manual dragging of the bottom
right window corner towards the right to expand more than the document
contents and then applying the other tricks. Then it works, but
precisely such manual dragging steps are the ones that I want to avoid
because they must be performed for each single Word file open that does
show this problem. As previously said, other word processors do it
right with a single click.

Note that the problem also arises because I am using very large
widescreen TFT monitors (all Apple Cinema Displays 22, 23 and
30-inches).

This is what I did:

1 - Open a Word file with text on "View/Page Layout".

2 - Set Zoom to 200% (Toolbar Standard button). That truncates the
window on right and bottom sides.

3 - Click the top left green (expansion) button of the window. That
expands OK tom-bottom (vertically) and also to the left, but not to the
right (horizontally). Thus, contents on the right of the Word file are
not displayed (truncated), even though, as said, there is plenty of
screen area (widescreen) to the right.

Note also that I do not want the word document to take all the screen
horizontally all the times, but only what is required to show all
contents horizontally (which may or may not require the whole screen
horizontally).

4 - If then I click the custom-made button "Zoom Page Width" (as Dayo
explained before on this thread), then the problem is that instead of
doing what I want (explained above), Word 2004 shrinks to 102% and that
fits OK all contents to a window, but not at 200% zoom, which is what I
want. At such 102% magnification the characters are too small to read
them properly. I want just that effect but keeping at 200%
magnification. That simple!

5 -If instead of step 4 above I click the custom-made button "One Page"
(as Dayo explained before on this thread), then the same issue
described in step 4 arises.

I wish Microsoft addresses this issue soon.

Thanks again. 

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On 2004-08-24 10:03:34 +0200, Clive Huggan 
<REMOVETHISoffice@ANDTHISstrategists.com.au> said:
> Tony,
> 
> The following should work while Microsoft beaver away to add the feature
> that by now you'll undoubtedly have sent to them via the Help menu:
> 
> 1. Hit the green Expand (?) button so the document occupies the whole
> screen.
> 
> 2.  Hit one of the buttons on a toolbar you can make in a few minutes
> showing an array of display magnifications.
> 
> 3.  If your first guess at the size doesn't work, hit another button.
> 
> 4.  If that doesn't work, zoom the view up/down, get the best size and add
> that size to your toolbar.
> 
> Soon you will have a toolbar that has a magnification size for every
> contingency.
> 
> For notes on how to make such buttons on a toolbar, each with its own macro,
> download "Bend Word to Your Will" (free) from
> http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/WordMac/Bend/BendWord.htm, then look in
> Appendix E: Making buttons for formatting shortcuts, under the heading 'View
> the document at 110 per cent'. (Once you have made the first button you only
> have to manually change the magnification size to make the next button.)
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Clive Huggan
> Canberra, Australia
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> On 17/8/04 5:36 PM, in article 2004081709362827590%nospam@nospamcom, "Tony"
> <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
> 
>> Dayo,
>> 
>> Many thanks for the feedback.
>> 
>> The problem here is that the percentage of zoom that I use is not
>> always the same. It is not always 200%, but depends on the actual file
>> and also on what I am doing with it. It could be lower or higher than
>> 100% and variable for each file.
>> 
>> Just clicking once on the maximize button (green on top left) should do
>> the trick, yet, as said, it works fine vertically (fits OK) but
>> truncates contents (at 200% zoom or similar) on the right side on large
>> 30-inch TFT displays. At lower zoom rations than 100%, it leaves too
>> much "blue" frame area on left and right sides between the actual page
>> and the window borders. It only works fine when magnification is
>> exactly 100% (not more, and not less).
>> 
>> Thus, in other words, what I am looking for is that the maximize button
>> (green on top left) should work the same at 100% zoom as at any other
>> lower or higher zoom rations.
>> 
>> And, as said, the good old Apple-Claris MacWrite Pro 1.5 did that years ago.
>> 
>> Thanks again.
>> 
>> ---
>> On 2004-08-17 00:11:12 +0200, Dayo Mitchell
>> <dayomitchell_1997@NOhotmailSPAM.com.invalid> said:
>> 
>>> Hi Tony,
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure how this would affect the window size, but it sounds like you
>>> might want to find your perfect zoom, then record a macro of yourself
>>> setting it and put that on a toolbar. It should look something like this:
>>> 
>>> Sub ZoomDesiredPercent
>>> ActiveWindow.View.Zoom.Percentage = 105 (or your desired percentage)
>>> End Sub
>>> 
>>> You *could* force Word to always have the same size doc window, or write a
>>> macro to flip the window to a certain size, but it doesn't quite sound like
>>> that is what you're after, although possibly a macro that sets the zoom and
>>> the size would work.
>>> 
>>> The best way to ensure your feature request gets logged and considered is to
>>> use the Send Feedback under Help, by the way.  It would be nice to have a
>>> feature that sized the window to the text, I do that manually a lot.
>>> Actually, I should make myself a window size macro, because I do mostly want
>>> it the same size.  Thanks for the idea!  (Not that I know how to write that
>>> macro, will have to figure it out later...)
>>> 
>>> Dayo
>>> 
>>> On 8/16/04 4:41 PM, "Tony" wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Dayo,
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> I have done it. Yet, when I click such "Zoom Page Width" icon on the
>>>> toolbar Word 2004 does right what showing all contents horizontally,
>>>> yet shrinks the document from 200% to 105% and I do not want it. I am
>>>> using a large 30-inch TFT Apple Cinema Display and I want to see large
>>>> fonts to read better.
>>>> 
>>>> I then I choose "200%" on the other Zoom icon tool, the document looks
>>>> fine vertically, but is truncated on the right side.
>>>> 
>>>> I must drag manually --and that is what I do not want to do-- the
>>>> bottom left corner of the window to expand the view to the right. As
>>>> said, the TFT is a large widescreen, so there is enough area.
>>>> 
>>>> Note that I do not want to stretch the document to take the full screen
>>>> horizontally, but only what is required to see all its contents
>>>> horizontally.
>>>> 
>>>> This should be possible for Microsoft programmers only if they wish.
>>>> This feature was available many years ago in MacWrite Pro 1.5 for Mac:
>>>> clicking on the expand icon of the window always expanded the document
>>>> to show all contents and only just to show hem (no more).
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks again.
>>>> 
>>>> ---
>>>> On 2004-08-16 20:35:34 +0200, Dayo Mitchell
>>>> <dayomitchell_1997@NOhotmailSPAM.com.invalid> said:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Tony,
>>>>> 
>>>>> All the zoom commands are listed as ViewZoom[whatever]...so look in the
>>>>> Vs...
>>>>> 
>>>>> The dialog's a nightmare to use, but the results are usually worth it.
>>>>> Send
>>>>> complaints straight to the developers via the Send Feedback menu under
>>>>> Help,
>>>>> if you want to...
>>>>> 
>>>>> DM
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 8/16/04 11:46 AM, "Tony" wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jim,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Selecting on the left "All commands" I cannot see any "Zoom" or
>>>>>> "ZoomPageWidth". The last command is "WW7_ToolsOptions".
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> PageWidth commandOn 2004-08-15 20:09:51 +0200, Jim Gordon MVP
>>>>>>> <goldkey74@WarmerThanWarmMail.com> said:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Tony,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I use the "Zoom Page Width" button.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> To make this button available use Tools>Customize>Menus and Toolbars.
>>>>>>> Click the Commands tab.
>>>>>>> Locate the ZoomPageWidth command in the right side of the dialog box
>>>>>>> and drag the command to any toolbar. Close the dialog box and you're
>>>>>>> done.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -Jim