Re: Placement of text on edge of cell

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Date: 19 Apr 2004 12:25:27 -0700

Hi John!

Please feel free to "ramble" as your rambling is educational! ;)

What I've been doing is instead of using text boxes I just use tables.
Do you know, are there any issues between Mac and PC/Windows as far as
tables are concerned?

The only problem I've come across so far is sometimes when a Windows
user opens the form the margins are larger than I created them which
"scrunches" the table and ergo the alignment of the form. The Windows
user resets his margins and it seems to be fine at that point. Any
way I can avoid this issue?

Thank you again John, your level of knowledge and willingness to share
it is admirable and hugely appreciated!

Have a terrific day!
Diane

"John McGhie [MVP - Word]" <john@mcghie.name> wrote in message news:<BCA93C3D.E9BC%john@mcghie.name>...
> Hi Diane:
>
> Yes, it's a known bug. It's due to the different screen resolutions between
> Mac and PC. Macs conventionally have used 72 dpi screens. Windows uses 96.
> So anything such as a form which contains a bitmap will be 96/72nds of its
> size on the PC.
>
> There is no cure for it. You can work around it using sophisticated VBA
> that uses a technique known as "Hash defines" to enable sections of the code
> to run on PC or Mac only.
>
> So you open the document with the form hidden. The document contains a
> macro that says "If Mac then Small Form else large form"
>
> Relatively easy to do, but difficult to roll out in a large organization due
> to macro security problems. On the PC, such code must be signed and each
> workstation must import a digital certificate to allow the use of signed
> macros. Otherwise every time the user opens the form they get prompted to
> disable macros, they say Yes, and your code gets stripped.
>
> One of the real reasons for moving to dot-Net is to improve macro security
> to the point where us corporate coders get our ability to use macros back.
> Currently, using any form of active content in a document is almost
> impossible on the corporate desktop.
>
> I ramble...
>
>
> This responds to article <8862be98.0404151452.79f0bb75@posting.google.com>,
> from "Diane Dennis" <diane@thecontractorsgroup.com> on 16/4/04 8:52 AM:
>
> > Hi John!
> >
> > Thank you for your help! Yes I've done that in the past but the
> > problem I run into is when folks open a form in their Word for Windows
> > that's been created in my Word for Mac, those text boxes aren't always
> > in the same place that I put them when the Windows user opens the
> > form.
> >
> > Have you heard of that problem before and do you know what I might do
> > to stop that from happening?
> >
> > Thank you again John, have a wonderful day!!
> > Diane Dennis
> >
> > P [MVP - Word]" <john@mcghie.name> wrote in message
> > news:<BC935DD3.BD11%john@mcghie.name>...
> >> Diane:
> >>
> >> There is certainly a way to "fake" this. But no, you are correct, text
> >> needs to be "in" or "out" of a table cell, it cannot be both.
> >>
> >> However... Assuming that your table is formatted as Inline with Text, then
> >> you can place your heading text in a text box. Turn off the border on the
> >> text box, but make sure the white fill remains.
> >>
> >> Now drag the text box into position over the table cell. The white fill
> >> will hide the table cell top border.
> >>
> >> Note that you will have difficulty holding these multiple objects precisely
> >> aligned. You are advised to use Insert>Object>Microsoft Word Picture, paste
> >> your table into the picture, then create your text boxes in the picture.
> >>
> >> When you exit the picture and come back to the Word document, the
> >> relationship of all the objects is fixed, and cannot be divided by page
> >> breaks etc.
> >>
> >> This is all described in the Word Help, get back to us if you need more
> >> specific details.
> >>
> >> This responds to article <8862be98.0403311157.6750c999@posting.google.com>,
> >> from "Diane Dennis" <diane@thecontractorsgroup.com> on 1/4/04 5:57 AM:
> >>
> >>> Hi!
> >>>
> >>> I'm creating a form using tables. Within the form are several
> >>> different "titled" boxes. The text of the title of each box needs to
> >>> "lay" on the top border of a cell, so that it looks like this:
> >>>
> >>> ---------- GEOLOGIC LOG ----------
> >>>
> >>> Is there any way to do this or will text only reside within/without
> >>> cells and not directly on a cell border?
> >>>
> >>> Thank you very much!!
> >>> Diane Dennis

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