Re: Type 2 crashes
From: Clive Huggan (REMOVETHISoffice_at_ANDTHISstrategists.com.au)
Date: 02/21/04
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Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 12:13:30 +1100
in article jemcgimpsey-DE0119.10222420022004@msnews.microsoft.com, JE
McGimpsey at jemcgimpsey@mvps.org wrote on 21/2/04 4:22 AM:
> In article <BC5ACFF9.3129%willmowat@ntlworld.com>,
> Will Mowat <willmowat@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>> iBook OS 9.2.2 Word 2001. I'm having major problems preventing me from
>> working. The doc is a large (10MB) text doc with all kinds of photos and
>> things embedded in it. The problem is that Word is frequently quitting with
>> the Type 2 error. Sometimes I can get Word to run with the doc if I try to
>> start it several times, whereupon it continues a bit longer before quitting
>> again. Restarting the iBook makes no difference, nor does clearing the PRAM.
>> Thinking it might be lack of program memory I have increased Word's memory
>> to 40,960 (!), but it makes no difference. One possible clue is that Word is
>> not very happy if it has to reorganise its pages and footers as a result of
>> text being inserted and moving everything down (red herring?). Anyway, (1)
>> can some angel help out here? (2) can someone give me a brief explanation as
>> what this application memory does and how we are supposed to know what to
>> set it at? Thank you. Will.
>
>
> the "minimum" setting is the amount that the OS should reserve to keep
> the core bits of the application in memory. The "preferred" memory
> setting asks for more memory to allow the app to work efficiently.
>
> When Virtual Memory is enabled and an app is opened, the OS gives the
> app as much memory as possible, up to the "preferred" setting. The
> available memory will depend (obviously) on the installed RAM and VM
> settings, as well as any other applications running. If the desired RAM
> is not available, the OS looks for apps that have allocations above
> their minimum settings, and swaps out the balance to the hard disk
> (swapping it back in when that app is activated). The OS can't swap the
> minimum amount, though, so if that's set too high, it will prevent other
> apps from using that memory, which is why you should leave "minimum"
> settings alone.
>
> 40MB sounds like a lot, but when you've take both pictures and the fact
> that the printer drivers have to be loaded into application space into
> account, it may be cramping Word. If you have the memory available, set
> the preferred setting to 48MB (the amount I used to use for everyday
> use), 64MB or even 128MB.
Just to add to J.E.'s spot-on advice, Will: on pages 26-27 of the notes on
the way I use Word, called "Bend Word to your Will", at
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/WordMac/Bend/BendWord.htm, there are a few more
adjustments to get the most stability out of Word 2001. But J.E. has covered
the main factor, given that Type 2 is a memory error, and FWIW I completely
concur with him -- especially for a 10 MB document.
-- Clive Huggan
Canberra, Australia
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