Re: Missing Features in Excel 2008!?

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Gosh why can't I proof when I am writing??? I look like a dunce. I proof and proof and proof and it still comes out wrong. :-(

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The fantasy as you call it. is based my *readings* of MacUser MacWorld, and Mac Addict over the years.

Phillip Jones wrote:


JE McGimpsey wrote:
In article <OUbd$rxcIHA.4696@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Phillip Jones <pjones1@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

But I always get the feeling that the MacBU is sort of like the "red-headed" stepchild and are only kept around with the most minimum budget and as few a developers as possible. because should Apple Fail and I doubt seriously it will (But Gates and the big-wigs at MS are crossing their fingers will happen), The MacBU would be shut down within 5 minutes.

Phillip - you persist in this dark fantasy with, AFAICT, exactly ZERO evidence to back it up other than paranoia. I know that it's somewhat comforting to feel that you're part of a small but righteous group afflicted by a big baddie, but where's your proof?

Come on now you mean to tell me that MS puts as much money and effort in MacBU as other portions of their company.

The fantasy as you call it. is based my redoing of MacUser MacWorld. and Mac Addict over the years. plus my personal experience with software that MS bought and promptly Killed, or Influenced other companies to kill.
Bo I am not some righteous group. All I want is a fair shake. I want software from any company to work the same as it does on one platform as it does for another. I don't care of it is UNIX, Linux, Mac or even windows/DOS. what I'd like to see is be able to sit down in front of a Computer/ any computer and be able to do this , this and this without batting an eyelash. Instead You can do this unless your own the Platform, or you can do that unless you own that platform.

MacBU is a profitable business segment (at least for now). It's budget is based on a combination of projected revenue and maintenance of that profit margin, just like 90% of other established business lines. If there were more Mac users, or if Mac users were willing to pay more for Office, you can bet that the resources would be allocated.

Far from being forced to have "as few a developers as possible", MacBU has spent a significant fraction of the last few years trying to hire more competent Mac developers. Guess what - it's hard to find them! The market's too small! And while I'm sure there are some developers that wouldn't move to Redmond on a bet, a good salary and benefits usually wins out.

How well do you know Gates and "the big-wigs" that you have such insight into their psyches? Have you talked with any of them for even five minutes?
One thing MS does NOT do is leave money on the table. Shutting MacBU down would do exactly that. It makes NO sense.

And of course, if Apple were to fail, ALL Mac software developers will rather quickly shut down. They'd be stupid not to.

Sorry if it looks like I am jaded. But from someone that who's first Mac was an SE/30 with OS 6.3 and the treatment Apple has received, you should be able to see where I am coming from.

Just because you're a recent convert is no reason to be jaded!!

Recent Convert?. I don't consider 1986 to be a recent convert. ;-)

The treatment Apple has received has largely been of its own making. Sheer arrogance combined with failure to adapt to the market.

That's typical of MS defenders.

You know for a Fact that the use of a Mouse and use of a desktop type metaphor was originated at Apple. I realize the very early works was done at Xerox Parc project but Xerox didn't want it and didn't step in the way, when Apple came out with their own design *based* on that research.

Then MS out right stole the design and because Apple wasn't big enough it was unable to pay enough to win a patent suite.

It was lucky that Microsoft needed a front to avoid further anti-trust sanctions, and gave that huge infusion of cash to Apple.

Yes it was lucky that MS' Lawyers did talk some reason , and put the fear of god into them. Because had the not done so, and not helped Apple to stay alive they would have met a worse fate than AT&T did back when the old Ma bell system was broken up.

It's lucky that MacBU busted their asses to get Office v.X out within a few months of the launch of OS X. Had that not occurred, Apple likely would have had a hard time surviving as a computer manufacturer.

It was great that the MacBu did get out X of course I was able to use 2001 on until 2004 came out. MS and other software people more than adequate warning OSX was Coming my goodness version of Ox.1 were out a year before they settled on X.1.5 I was not an early adopter I stuck with OS 9.2.2 until 10.2.3 came out. and even then for a while I switched back and forth.

If you have to keep up with the times new designs, and system have to flow as well.

My goodness PC's can still run and some people still do DOS programs.

At some point you need to say we just can't keep the same thing for 30 or forty years we have got to change and be innovative.

Have to resign myself to the US of MS products because for Macs even though there are a lot of open source wannabes, MS is really still the only game in town.

So I have to deal with but I don't have to like it. Its kind of like going to the DR at some point you have to go to them whether you want to or not.


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