Re: Missing Features in Excel 2008!?





Bill Weylock wrote:
Jim -


First, I know that you all are volunteers and very hard working ones! I know that you are not in charge of MS policy or responsible for their attention span.

But these continual suggestions that we lodge “suggestions” with MS are making me foam at the mouth.

If MS really cares about user reactions, they surely are not waiting to see how many people take the trouble to write. They are reading these newsgroups every three hours and having meetings about the requests and frustrations they see here.

My field is marketing research, and it is an axiom that for every customer who takes the trouble to complain, many simply vote with their feet.

Please don’t interpret this as disrespect, but don’t you agree that it’s not our job to remind them of how to write good software?

Am I missing something here? My honest conclusion is that if they really care, they will already be working on anything that draws agreement from more than three or four people. And anything that draws agreement among the MVPs should be a fire-breathing emergency.

If they don’t read the newsgroups, having abandoned their responsibilities to write coherent and comprehensive documentation for the software in the first place, what are we dealing with here?

Again, this is just my perspective. I may be missing something obvious to cooler heads.

The differences between 2007 and 2008 are infuriating and unacceptable. It’s a story that is going to get told pretty soon if it hasn’t been already. It will damage Apple acceptance in the workplace, and it just plain stinks.


Hey Bill, that's what Microsoft is Banking on. If they can piss off enough Macintosh Customers to abandon apple. Then they will gleefully accept it.

If we don't voice our anger on the Feedback by telling what features we Miss. Then they will have succeeded in wanting to to do ever since MR Gates was rebuffed the two Steve's when he wanted to be a part of Apple.


WE should stick to our guns and voice our displeasure. If gives them headaches to look at all the feedback request. Then we will force them to rethink. And decided it better to cooperate than make us mad.

I'm yearning for the day when Apple comes out with something so great that PC types leave in droves and puts MS un the edge of Bankruptcy. Then they will have to cater to get our business.

I have VMware Fusion on my iMac, and I have begun to use Excel 2007 instead of 2008. I can’t be bothered with the failings.

By the way, I have been a very dedicated Mac user since 1987. This is not a light decision.


On 2/16/08 7:05 PM, in article C3DD0EBA.29878%goldkey74@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Jim Gordon MVP" <goldkey74@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Quoting from "Ardy" <Ardy>, in article
ee88c11.55@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
on [DATE:

> so What this mean for me who JUST bought a mac and assumed that
the excel on
> mac would be just the same.. i guess it means I made a bad
assumption that
> Apple was as good as PC.. but its not

I was very concerned that people would get this impression from
Microsoft's
actions. I had fears that if the premier software sold for the Mac
(which is
Microsoft Office) were substandard that it would negatively affect
not only
Microsoft's sales, but Apple's sales as well. I now see that my
fears were
not unjustified.

The Mac is fine. Microsoft drew conclusions about what the users of Mac
office want and I think they missed the boat.

Please use this URL to explain to Microsoft that you are
disappointed with
their decisions concerning which features of Office to support and which
ones they dropped. Please be specific.
http://www.microsoft.com/mac/suggestions.mspx?product=excel

They need to hear more than just the product failed to meet your
expectations. Please tell them exactly what you expected Microsoft to
deliver and where they fell short.

You may be happier with Microsoft Office 2004 or NeoOffice (free).
Certainly
worth trying.

-Jim


Best,

Bill
Imac 2.8Ghz -10.5.1
Office 2008/2003 - Windows XP Pro SP2



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