Re: MSN Premium mail - DAV retirement

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N. Miller wrote:

On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 22:22:57 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:

N. Miller wrote:

On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 14:13:14 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:

Danielray wrote:

I have received this email from Windows a couple times:

... Microsoft is changing the way these programs access Hotmail e-mail
which will require you to take action. ... To continue to receive
e-mail from your Hotmail account, please select one of the
alternative solutions below before September 1, 2009. ...

Do I need to make a change? I'm running Vista SP2, IE 8 and MSN
Premium through Qwest DSL. I use MSN mail version 9.6. I don't think
I'm using Outlook or Hotmail, but I'm unsure. Does MSN use Outlook or
other mail app in the background that I can't see?

MSN Mail is what?

It is probably the MSN Browser which makes the connection to the MSN
service. This is akin to the AOL browser for people using AOL as an ISP; and
specific to people using MSN dial service. It is also still usable with HSI
services; I've set up an aunt on 'at&t Yahoo! HSI', but still using the MSN
browser (just updated to 9.6 for compatibility changes coming this
September). Identified in the headers of email from my aunt thus:

| X-Mailer: MSN 9
| X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.60.0053.2200

I don't have much use for it, myself. But some think that it is the gateway
to the Internet, and are very lost without it.

So this web browser includes an built-in e-mail client? That would only
mean that, like Outlook calling OE for newsgroups, that the MSN web
browser was loading some other e-mail client to do the POP/IMAP/SMTP
support. To me, saying it is the MSN browser just means it is a web
browser like any other and the OP is using HTTP to access the webmail
interface to Hotmail.

I take it you have never seen this application in operation. It doesn't
invoke a separate email client application, it displays the email within the
application. But not the same view as a web view in MS Internet Explorer. I
guess you could say the mail client and the web client are seamlessly
integrated within the same application GUI.

It even includes its own dialer, which has to be disable when using it over
an HSI connection from a different provider.

I don't and haven't ever bothered to subscribe to MSN in order to get
their specialized web browser. I consider myself lucky in not getting
suckered into MSN "premium" services. But then I haven't seen users
refer to the MSN web browser as an e-mail client, either.

In a virtual machine, I downloaded adn installed the MSN software from:

https://membercenter.msn.com/download.aspx

Their installer started but aborted with "The MSN installation service
is currently unavailable. Please try again later." Tried again and
this time it got to the login screen; however, I don't have an MSN
account so I could not proceed. I have a Hotmail account but they
wanted me to *buy* an MSN plan. Experiment over.

Is this "MSN Mail" what Microsoft was calling Kahuna before? That's an
AJAX web app so there is no e-mail client, just the web browser. It's a
server-side webmail client that happens to employ AJAX to extend
functionality. Support for Javascript and XHTML doesn't make the web
browser an e-mail client.

http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/msn_kahuna_preview.asp
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