Re: what is WRONG with hotmail..

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From: Vanguard (see_signature)
Date: 01/08/05 

Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 21:56:43 -0600

"Frances Del Rio" <fdr58@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Vanguard wrote:
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>> "Frances Del Rio" <fdr58@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>> Vanguard wrote:
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>>>> "Frances Del Rio" <fdr58@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>>>> found out the hard way yesterday that if you don't use yr hotmail
>>>>> acct in 30 days it disappears... an e-mail acct that disappears if
>>>>> not used in 30 is COMPLETELY USELESS.. what are folks @ MS
>>>>> thinking???
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>>>> You're bitching about a freebie service that you can't be bothered
>>>> to monitor? So why did you get the account in the first place if
>>>> you're not going to use it?
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>>> I got the acct for the few times I use MSN messenger, don't need it
>>> for e-mail at all... and you know, this does make it a real pain
>>> b/c, as I said, I don't use it that often, so if I want to chat over
>>> messenger and haven't done so in 30 days my username for messenger
>>> is no good anymore.. this is another thing that sucks.. for AOL AIM
>>> you don't need an AOL e-mail acct to use it... just a userid you
>>> choose yourself...
>>> I wish all my friends were on AOL AIM.. we use it at work and it
>>> works quite well.. thanks for yr response.. Frances
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>>>
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>> Actually whether you have a Hotmail account or use Messenger, they
>> all tie back to your Passport account. You cannot open a Hotmail
>> account without opening a Passport account because it is the Passport
>> database that regulates authentication. When you sign-on to Hotmail,
>> you first go through a Passport login page. Messenger uses your
>> Passport authentication. You can create a Passport account that
>> doesn't rely on a Hotmail account but you cannot create a Hotmail
>> account without creating a Passport account.
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> so: does passport acct expire (or whatever) if you don't use it in 30
> days or something? where do you sign up for a passport acct? thank
> you for yr response..
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>> AOL's messenger only requires a screen name, like you said, and not
>> an account. You sure an AOL/Netscape screen name also doesn't expire
>> after a long time of inactivity? I've heard of some users using
>> Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com/) which will access several
>> messenger servers, so it support AOL, Hotmail, Yahoo, and maybe some
>> other messenger services. However, from what I've read of user
>> reviews, it has less functionality. So you trade features for
>> versatility.
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> I started using Trillian just a few days ago, so far I like it.. one
> interesting thing I came across last night is a chat app called Jabber
> (http://www.jabber.org/) with which supposedly you can also chat on
> different systems and such.. ok, thanks again.. Frances
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>

Well, maybe I was wrong about Passport not timing out if you use a
non-Hotmail account with it. According to
http://www.passport.net/consumer/termsofuse.asp?lc=1033&id=10&cbid=486&rollrs=11:

Microsoft may also terminate or suspend your access to the .NET Passport
Services for inactivity, which is defined as failing to sign in to the
Services for an extended period of time, as determined by Microsoft.

So it looks like they have the option to expire your Passport account
but they are not specific regarding what is the expiration interval, if
any. They don't define "extended period". But this expiration is
ambiguous where with Hotmail the expiration is automatic. 

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