Re: how to solve hotmail "Account closed. access denied" error
From: Vanguardx (see_signature)
Date: 09/30/04
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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 13:52:43 -0500
"D" <bbcrock@hotmail.com>
wrote in news:22e171df.0409300646.6c808d9d@posting.google.com:
> I contacted abuse@hotmail.com about this, but I need to get this
> solved asafp.
>
> I have no idea what transpired to cause this. I've had a hotmail
> account for 10 years.
>
> anyone know other email addresses at hotmail to contact.
>
> thanks!
>
> Don
You now have to pay for a Hotmail account to have access to it when
using Outlook [Express]. Those e-mail clients used HTTP/WebDAV to
access Hotmail but it could also be abused by spammers opening new
account (which was stupid on Microsoft's part). Instead of just
disabling WebDAV access to pages that open new accounts (so you could
only use Outlook [Express] to access an existing account but would still
have to use the web interface to create a new account or make option
changes) they decided to go the extreme of locking out all WebDAV
access - but only for freebie accounts. That is, should you decide to
pay Hotmail for their premium service then WebDAV from Outlook [Express]
will function. The webmail interface via browser still works for
freebie accounts (because you are not using WebDAV). So your choice is
to cough up the $20/year for Hotmail Plus or degenerate to only getting
to use the web interface to a freebie Hotmail account.
If you had searched in the mail newsgroups before posting or done a
Google search, you would've already found the reason. Google will find
lots of hits on "+Hotmail +Outlook" in the news, like
http://www.internetweek.com/breakingNews/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=47903173.
I believe Hotmail gave up providing POP3 and SMTP servers over a year
ago. Even if you pay for their Plus service, you still don't get POP3
and SMTP servers to access. Instead you are stuck with that damned
WebDAV interface which also means you are stuck with using only e-mail
clients that use WebDAV for an HTTP account (i.e., Outlook or Outlook
Express). You could use Hotmail Popper which runs as an HTTP-to-POP3
protocol converter proxy on your computer. You define a POP3 account
(for Hotmail) in your e-mail client and configure it to go through
Hotmail Popper, so your e-mail client makes a POP3 connection to the
proxy which then makes the HTTP connection to the webmail provider
(Hotmail). YahooPOPs works similar for [freebie] Yahoo Mail accounts.
You might want to know start investigating Yahoo! Mail.
- Unlike Hotmail that has been promising increased mailbox quota for
months, Yahoo has 100MB for their freebie accounts.
- The web interface for Yahoo Mail is faster.
- You can switch between rendered and HTML-code views. This lets you
enter HTML code into your message for features that are not available
through the webmail interface.
- You can choose to change the background color only for the selected
text whereas Hotmail uses the color as the entire background color.
- In Yahoo Mail, you can switch between full and brief headers with a
single click on just a particular e-mail rather than set a global option
as in Hotmail that shows full headers on every e-mail.
- Yahoo Mail has both a non-secure and secure login page. Hotmail also
used SSL but not on the form web page (i.e., you won't see the padlock
icon in the browser's status bar for the login credentials page at
Passport) but the form data gets submitted to an HTTPS site. With Yahoo
Mail's secure login page (https://login.yahoo.com/config/login), you see
the padlock icon as reassurance that it is indeed a secure login.
However, secured login does NOT then mean your messages are secure.
Everything is plain text via HTTP thereafter (just like it is plain text
when sending/receiving your messages when using an SMTP server, unless
your ISP provides an SSL port to their mail server).
- Yahoo's spam filtering has shown to be far more effective than
Hotmail's. Hotmail does seem to have improved their spam filtering in
the last couple months but more spam leaks through into a Hotmail inbox
than for a Yahoo Mail inbox.
- If you're going to get stuck paying for a premium service, Hotmail
still doesn't give you access to POP3 and SMTP server but Yahoo Mail's
premium service does.
- With a Yahoo account, you get free personal web page space with 15MB
of disk space, an online file storage manager, called Briefcase, for an
additional 30MB of storage, and an online photo storage manager with
unlimited storage. With Hotmail, you get none of that.
- Yahoo lets you define auto-responders (i.e., vacation or out-of-office
automatic reply), plus a separate auto-responder used only for senders
from specific domain (so you can be , for example, more informative with
your coworkers sending your personal messages). Not with Hotmail.
- Yahoo lets you yank your e-mails from other POP3 account to aggregate
them into one account (only works with the webmail interface, however).
Hotmail had this feature but dropped it a long time ago.
- Yahoo lets me use HTML when composing a signature to add to the end of
my outbound messages. Hotmail supposedly has it, too, but enabled the
Rich-Text Editor mode in the compose signature page has always resulted
(for me) going to a Passport login page, a long wait after entering the
login credentials, and another login page with "Done" status (i.e., I'm
stuck in a loop).
- Both Yahoo and Hotmail give you e-mail and an address book but Yahoo
adds a Notebook, handy if you want some notes available from anywhere
you can browse the Net.
- Yahoo provides their Intellisynce that lets you synchronize your
Outlook [Express] calendar, contacts, and notes with those in your Yahoo
account. With Hotmail, you have to export (contacts only) from Outlook
[Express] to a file and them import them into Hotmail.
And most important to users that want just the freebie account,
YahooPOPs can provide POP3 access to Yahoo Mail using *any*
POP3-compliant e-mail client, so you can use Outlook [Express] to yank
your e-mails or any e-mail client you like.
Note that I would suggest NOT sending outbound e-mails through a freebie
Yahoo Mail account. That is because Yahoo will alter your outbound
messages to append their spam signature promoting Yahoo [Mail], just
like Hotmail does. If you configure YahooPOPs to enable its SMTP
service and send your outbound e-mails through YahooPOPs to have it send
your message using Yahoo Mail, you're stuck with that spam signature
from Yahoo at the end of your messages. Instead configure your e-mail
client to use your ISP's SMTP server for outbound messages (i.e., yank
from Yahoo, push through your ISP).
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