Re: Yet another request to force MS's brain dead SMTP service to process it's queue

From: Ken Schaefer (kenREMOVE_at_THISadOpenStatic.com)
Date: 07/09/04 

Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 18:34:55 +1000

Did you change the "expiration timeout" settings (you didn't mention those)?

The problem is that the SMTP server can not know if a domain is
unresolvable, or a domain doesn't really exist - hence the expiration
timeout settings. These are there to make the internet robust (so that it
copes with transient problems, and eventually recognises chronic issues).

And, all this whinging about "robust mailservers" - why isn't it robust? It
hasn't crashed on you? It's just doing what it's supposed to be doing. Just
because it does something other than what you want doesn't mean that it
doesn't work.

Personally, I think your attitude needs a facelift. If you come here
carrying on like you do, then no one is going to care about what are
ultimately your problems.

Cheers
Ken

"John Smith" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:eBJskyMZEHA.2388@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
: > The ndr's sitting there will eventually move to the badmail directory
: > (most of them will be spam anyway). You might be well advised to empty
: > that directory on a regular basis...
:
: I'm well aware of this. I want it to plow through the queue and badmail
the
: appropriate stuff NOW. Not 2 days from now. NOW.
:
: > What good is reducing delivery times supposed to be?
:
: So it will clear the queue NOW and I can verify the stupid thing is
working
: before going home. I want to clear the queue NOW so I can send test emails
: NOW and verify they work NOW.
:
: > > "Industrial strength SMTP server" my patootie.
: > It is. It just needs proper administration...
:
: Like the "process NOW" option. Even the bloated pig monster exchange
server
: has a "retry NOW" button.
:
: > If your active queue is piling up your problem sits elsewhere (dns
: > problems, connectivity problems, spam problems).
:
: Connectivity problem fixed after a holiday weekend because the server
: crashed for now reason. No DNS problems. No network problems now. No
: connectivity problems now. Just the SMTP service failing because of
typical
: SPAM NDR's and it refusing to badmail them. ALL DAY. I spent 10 hours
trying
: to figure out why I couldn't send email and it was simply because the SMTP
: service is brain dead and refused to badmail spam ndr's. Instead it wanted
: to hang onto them for a couple more days and clog up my outgoing AND
: incoming queue. How can you tell if these connectivity problems are fixed
if
: you can't force "retry NOW" and see if they work or not?
:
: Is it working? Is it badmailing correctly? Can I send email out and get it
: back RIGHT NOW? Can't find out until it processes the 4000 emails that are
: stuck in it's stupid queue. Can't force processing of those emails. Guess
I
: get to go home and then get a call in 3 hours telling me things aren't
: working instead of figuring it out NOW.
:
: > At times we had over 40.000 (!) mails sitting in our mail queue and most
: > of them were ndr's on their way out to nonexistant addresses...
: > We solved that problem by using software from www.vamsoft.com to filter
: > inbound mails...
:
: I solved it by safe moding, renaming the queue folder to queue.old,
creating
: a new queue folder and rebooting. Only problem is there possibly exists
some
: good email in all the junk it was too stupid to try to process. Oh well.
At
: least I can test it NOW and find out it's working NOW.
:
: tima at predator dash software dot com
: which is finally working even though the ms smtp service is brain dead
:
:
:
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