Re: Yet another request to force MS's brain dead SMTP service to process it's queue

From: John Smith (someone_at_microsoft.com)
Date: 07/08/04 

Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 02:16:39 -0700

> The ndr's sitting there will eventually move to the badmail directory
> (most of them will be spam anyway). You might be well advised to empty
> that directory on a regular basis...

I'm well aware of this. I want it to plow through the queue and badmail the
appropriate stuff NOW. Not 2 days from now. NOW.

> What good is reducing delivery times supposed to be?

So it will clear the queue NOW and I can verify the stupid thing is working
before going home. I want to clear the queue NOW so I can send test emails
NOW and verify they work NOW.

> > "Industrial strength SMTP server" my patootie.
> It is. It just needs proper administration...

Like the "process NOW" option. Even the bloated pig monster exchange server
has a "retry NOW" button.

> If your active queue is piling up your problem sits elsewhere (dns
> problems, connectivity problems, spam problems).

Connectivity problem fixed after a holiday weekend because the server
crashed for now reason. No DNS problems. No network problems now. No
connectivity problems now. Just the SMTP service failing because of typical
SPAM NDR's and it refusing to badmail them. ALL DAY. I spent 10 hours trying
to figure out why I couldn't send email and it was simply because the SMTP
service is brain dead and refused to badmail spam ndr's. Instead it wanted
to hang onto them for a couple more days and clog up my outgoing AND
incoming queue. How can you tell if these connectivity problems are fixed if
you can't force "retry NOW" and see if they work or not?

Is it working? Is it badmailing correctly? Can I send email out and get it
back RIGHT NOW? Can't find out until it processes the 4000 emails that are
stuck in it's stupid queue. Can't force processing of those emails. Guess I
get to go home and then get a call in 3 hours telling me things aren't
working instead of figuring it out NOW.

> At times we had over 40.000 (!) mails sitting in our mail queue and most
> of them were ndr's on their way out to nonexistant addresses...
> We solved that problem by using software from www.vamsoft.com to filter
> inbound mails...

I solved it by safe moding, renaming the queue folder to queue.old, creating
a new queue folder and rebooting. Only problem is there possibly exists some
good email in all the junk it was too stupid to try to process. Oh well. At
least I can test it NOW and find out it's working NOW.

tima at predator dash software dot com
which is finally working even though the ms smtp service is brain dead

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