Re: Proxy capabilities and securenat/firewall client



"Phillip Windell" <philwindell@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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"steve" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hi all,

I currently have a watchguard box as my perimeter firewall.

Same here.

I want to install an ISA box as another perimeter firewall (on another
public IP) in order to utilise it's reverse web proxy functionality. I
would also like to use it as a forward proxy in combination with the
surfcontrol ISA product so

We've done that, but without the SurfControl

1) Can I proxy both HTTP and HTTPS traffic through ISA?

Yes.

2) Do I need the firewall client installed to achieve this?

No. But you should use it anyway.

I was intending to push out IE proxy settings via GPO.

Forget GPO. It is too rigid, inflexable, ans sometimes unpredictable.
Use the WPAD proxy autodetection method. Plenty of info on the Net and
MS's site for doing that with both DNS and DHCP (use both the DNS and DHCP
methods at the same time).

3) Do I need to do anything special to get the remote workers to proxy
through ISA?

Yes. Their browsers need the proxy details added to the specific Dialup
Connection (found in the browser internet options). The proxy settings in
the LAN Settings are irrelevant to VPN dial in clients.

They are standard XP machines with an IPSEC firewall client

IPSEC firewall client? I don't think there is any such thing.

Once they VPN into the watchguard, the firewall client gets an IP address
on our local subnet

Actually the WG does not do that. That is why we stopped using the WG for
VPN. It uses a static pool of addresses,...it does not "get an IP from
the local subnet". In addition to only using a static pool of address it
does not provide for any other TCP options like DNS, WINS, etc.,...so
those have to be added statically/manually to the user's Dialup
Connectiod. The WG also won't allow you to have VPN clients with static
addressing. Fortuneately ISA smoothly allows all those thing to work
perfectly fine if you choose to use it as the VPN server instead of the WG
(which we now do). The role of our WG has been reduced to providing the
Corporate Site-to-Site VPN Connection (with a WG at each site) and
providing outbound access to certain servers and network devices,...it
does nothing else any longer and those other jobs have all been rolled
over to the ISA.

and can access the ISA box's private interface by hostname or IP address?

Hostnames require WINS in the user's Dialup Connectiod.
FQDNs require DNS in the user's Dialup Connectiod.
Without those you are stuck with IP#s

--
Phillip Windell
www.wandtv.com


Are there any disadvantages of using the firewall client? For example, will
it happily sit alongside standard firewall software (e.g. f-secure) that may
be on a client machine?

I'll look into WPAD (it looks quite straightforward), however I'd like to
know what the problem is with using GPO to push the HTTP/HTTPS proxy
settings to IE? I thought this would be the easiest thing to do, given all
my machines are on the domain.

The remote workers have the watchguard VPN client installed, which (when
connected) is treated by windows as a standard NIC connection. At this point
the users can ping the ISA internal interface, so if their IE proxy = ISA
internal address then won't that work? How will the firewall client work in
this remote scenario?

Thanks for the replies so far, I'm an ISA virgin =)


.



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