Re: ISA Is Driving Me Insane!



Interesting, so what about PPPoA? is that the same. I just spoke to
another ISP in my area and they only provide PPPoA connections.

Regarding timeouts I have had no problems that I have noticed to date
regarding this and I host my own website and Exchange email servers - I
guess thats not to say I wont have though!

Thanks for your input regarding this

AJ

Asher_N wrote:
"Lei Hu" <lei@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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Why should we avoid PPPoE like plague? What problems will it cause?
From memory, isa does support PPPoE auto dial, so they should work
together well. I've read some of your replies in this group, but
failed to find any detailed explanation. Can you give a bit more
detailed explanation for newbies like me? Thanks.



For starters, PPPoE was designed to allow ISP to switch to broadband with
no changes to their network and Radius authentication schemes. There is a
5-10% overhead associated with PPPoE.

Because it was designed with the dial-up home user infrastructure in
mind, it is also implemented with inactivity timeouts. For a home user,
that is not a problem as the 'dial-up' and authentication usually takes
only a few seconds, and in a home user situation, the user ALWAYS
initiates the connection. Most SOHO NAT devices will send a regular
'keep-alive' packet to the ISP to simulate activity and prevent the
disconnect. It is only somewhat effective.

In a business environment, you need that connection open all the time to
receive inbound requests (e-mail, published web sites, etc.) For that
reason, the 'keep alive' failing even once in a while is not an
acceptable solution.



"Phillip Windell" <@.> wrote in message
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You could start saving yourself a bunch of greif by ditching the ADSL
"router".

Plug the ADSL Modem directly into the External Nic of the ISA.
Make sure the Public IP# is static and the ISA's nic simply takes
over the IP Specs that the external side of the "router" used to
have. If the ISP does not have a static IP for you then get one from
them. You're paying them for a service, make them earn it, don't let
them give you any crap about it.
Also avoid PPPoE like the Plague,...PPPoE is for Home Users,...it is
not meant for commercial environments.

--
Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
www.wandtv.com

The views expressed are my own (as annoying as they are), and not
those of my employer or anyone else associated with me.
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"AndyJ" <andyjones99@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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All working again. Don't ask me how though!!!

AndyJ wrote:
I have been trying to solve this issue for ages now and I am
failing miserably, its driving me insane. One minute I have it
working and I make a change for something else and it breaks again!

Here is my problem.

I have an ISA server configured in a 3 legged configuration so I
have an external NIC which plugs into a ADSL Router, a perimeter
network and my internal network. All network segments have a
private address range and the router does my natting. I am trying
to get all my published servers on the perimeter network.

So far I have OWA and EAS working via a web publishing rule, I
publish the Front-End server in the perimeter network. However I
cannot seem to get my server publishing rule working which
publishes the front end server for SMTP.

I have an access rule which allows SMTP traffic from the perimeter
network into the internal network and a rule which lets SMTP
traffic from the external network into the perimeter. However
whatever I try I still see SMTP traffic getting denied by the
default rule.

I thought I solved this earlier on by adding some network rules,
but since I don't really understand exactly what I did I am back to
square one.

Can someone please help me out here!

Thanks

AJ






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