Re: Macintosh behind ISA can't use VOIP app, but MSN chat works...

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From: Jim Harrison [MSFT] (jmharr_at_online.microsoft.com)
Date: 03/10/04


Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 20:34:38 -0800

You're oversimplifying it.
Your MAC is anything but "just another IP-connected device".
I seriously doubt you'll be able to reprogram the Nokia from its current protocol.

VOIP through ISA requires either:
1 - an application filter that understands the protocol
2 - the ability to run the ISA Firewall Client
..and sometimes both...

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"Toolie" <tooliedotter@isomedia.com> wrote in message news:9a5101c4060c$ad6fb550$a001280a@phx.gbl...
So Jim, if I can get the Nikotel application to function
through the H.323 gateway, will it work? I don't
understand the distinction, so please explain why my
Dialpad (also a VOIP application) works on Windows if I
just open the needed ports...
Think of my Macintosh client as just another IP-connected
device. I need to connect the external VOIP server to my
IP-connected Macintosh using server publishing rules,
which I've attempted. I'm missing something. Can you give
me a high-level overview of what those steps are? I need a
protocol definition to open the ports, that I know. What
else? A desination set? A server publishing rule? We're
close to the solution, but I could use that last extra
piece of data to make it work, and I'd appreciate your
assistance.
Thank you,
Toolie
>-----Original Message-----
>MSNIM Chat is not VOIP, so it doesn't help your
troubleshooting.
>ISA only supports H.323 VOIP.
>
>-- 
> Jim Harrison [ISASE]
> Read the help, books and articles!
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.
>
>
>"Toolie" <tooliedotter@isomedia.com> wrote in message
news:95f001c40545$5252d8e0$a101280a@phx.gbl...
>I'm running SBS 2003 (WS03, Ex03, and ISA 2000) on a
>network, and I have 3 Macintoshes also connected via IP
>addresses assigned through DHCP.
>
>- I have set up a user in the domain so that the Mac user
>authenticates when connecting to the domain for file
>sharing, etc.
>- Services for Macintosh is installed, and the user can
>browse the MacFile shares without a problem.
>- The Macintosh is basically invisible to the Windows
>side, with the exception of file sharing on the Mac
>shares. Thanks to settings on the Mac, I can see file
>shares on the Mac if needed.
>- Internet browsing with IE for Mac works, and MSN
>Messenger for Mac works on the Macintosh for text chat.
>
>We are trying to get Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)
>applications and Voice over IP (VOIP) apps to work from
>the Mac running OS-X. Part of the problem is my lack of
>knowledge on "port forwarding", so please jump in here
>with plain-English instructions and specific locations in
>ISA for that activity.
>
>1) How do I set up application-specific forwarding so that
>traffic gets from say "iVisit.net" or "Nikotel.com" to the
>Macintosh?
>
>2) With UDP port settings for SIP applications, do I
>use "Receive", "ReceiveSend", "Send",
>and/or "SendReceive"? No one ever specifies which to use
>when they say "Use UDP blah blah blah".
>
>This issue is a whopper: I've stumped 2 Macintosh-based
>SIP application support desks with this one. None of them
>seem to know anything about ISA settings, if they've heard
>of ISA at all. I also posted this to the ISAServer.org
>community, and no one seems to know what to suggest
>there...at least not yet. The problem has existed for over
>a year, and we're extemely frustrated because NONE of the
>documentation in ISA or any ISA books I've looked at
>address Macintosh clients AT ALL.
>
>Any help would be appreciated!
>
>Thanks!
>
>--------------------
>Toolie
>Tooliedotter, Inc.
>
>
>.
>


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