Re: Crash

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!,200 watt, not 12,000 watt power supply (A 12,000 watt PS would not fit in
any desktop case, although it might in a blade server rack.
As to cases and air in/out and fans, etc.
Usually, by caveat and old long standing "standards", Front or side fans
blow in, rear and top fans blow out.

Spot cooling or airflow direction inside the case may be necessary. This can
include such things as baffles, or even internal fans used to circulate air.
High performance video cards can generate a LOT of heat, esp. when they are
overclocked. My HP4890 uses up to 190w of power, and the GPU can be quite
difficult to cool with stock fans, even at below or at rated clock speeds.
Multicore processors are another issue, in that they may use as much as 140w
or so. Again, a major heat source.
Even MBD support chips can generate quite a bit of heat.
You may need to do such things as baffle heatsink fans, so that they pull
cool incoming air, and the exhaust fans don't try to exhaust as much cool
air as hot air.

In general, an open case, if the internal fans are proper, will allow the
fans direct access to ambient air that is cooler than air in an enclosed
case.

There are such things as thermisitors and thermocouples, as well as infra
red non contact temperature measurement instruments.
They can really help to determine what is actually going on.

"CJR" <chrisruiz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I wouldn't bother with Water Cooling just yet, you said that you have a fan
pointed directly at the video card and the sides are left open.

Computer cases as designed with air flow patterns in mind and the
locations of the fans is not by accident. You do NOT want to be blowing
air on to the video card or even the mobo, instead position your fans (if
you must leave the side off) so that they are pulling as much air OUT of
the case as possible.

I would purchase a nice case with plenty of fan cooling, check out
newegg.com and read the reviews of different cases, this should take care
of the heat problem.

CJR

"Tom Rapheld" <TRapheld@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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The Power Supply is a 12000 Watt TruePower Quattro by Antec. One of the
best.

I have not 'Blown' monitors, I run two monitors and they both go to
'Black Screen' even though the computer seems to be working. Although
the sounds also dies about a second or two later. All the latest drivers
are installed, in fact I tried installing earlier video drivers to see if
that would make any difference.

The problem appears to be a heat problem. I do run the computer with the
sides open and I have an external fan pointing directly at the Video
Card. When I first started using external fans there appear to be an
improvement in the length of time I could run without a crash. The card
is definately hot
to the touch. If I knew more about Water Cooled systems I would install
one of those to see if it would make a difference. Can you direct me to
a web site for water cooling systems?

And thank you for you response. 8-)


"Scott" <scott.canniff@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hello,

What size of power supply are you running? Sounds like you're PC is
lacking sufficient power to run properly and possibly damaging some
components. Since you are running high end games, I'd suggest getting a
high rated power supply since your high end hardware needs more power.

Since you've blown two monitors, I'd check to make sure if the video
card has any power connectors on it and ensure that it has a power
connector plugged into it. I have seen some video cards that require a
separate power supply connection and they also supply power to the
monitor.

Also, as Fastrac.Design mentioned, make sure all your drivers are up to
date for ALL of your hardware (MB, NIC, sound, video, etc).

I hope this info helps you get back to gaming!

Scott


"Tom Rapheld" <TRapheld@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I have taken my puter to top experts in my area with no fix.

I crash to monitors that have gone completely blank with the sounds
going off shortly thereafter. I have to turn the puter completely off
and restart it. This crash only happens in high graphic games,
including MMORPG games. For Example: LOTRO, Fallen Earth, Dungeon and
Dragons, Neverwinter Nights 2, Assassin's Creed, etc. etc. etc.

Since this started I have replaced the Mother Board with an ASUS P5Q-E,
the Video Card with an nVidia/EVGA GeForce GTX 285, 1T Hard Drive and
replaced Windows Vista from scratch on the new hard drive. I have run
the system with the sound card (Creative X-Fi Audio Processor,
Fatality) totally removed and the HP-DVD read/write drive taken out. I
have replace a lot of the wiring in the system. I have used different
internet service providers. I use 4 Gigs of onboard memory and have
taken 2 Gigs out and then exchange the 2 Gigs of memory still onboard
with what I have taken out. About the only think that I have not
replaced is the 2.66GHz, 2666Mhz, Core2 Quad CPU.

Machine crashed before all the new stuff was installed and after.
Always crashing to what seems like there is no output to the monitor
nor the speakers. It crashes more readily on MMORPG games, but it also
crashes on off-line games. Never had a crash from a Solitaire or
Majong type game and never crashed while I am doing any normal work or
online searches.

Again, about the only thing that I have not replaced is the CPU. Does
anyone out there know enough to help me or know where I can post this
message to get positive feedback on how to solve my problem??






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