Re: MS Expression Web Designer

Hi,

You are correct that these images are links, and I did not know if links, by
default, will be added by boarders or not.

However, I found another way of making the change is from the picture
properties and to remove boarder from there. Strange enough, using
conventional Format Boarder won't work.

Other silent changes are mostly related to styles such as fonts.

I have to admit that my site is not very well designed in the beginning. I
have a style*** comes with the template package that I purchased and used
for most pages including ASP and HTML.

There is another style*** residing in the folder of the shopping cart
which comes with the shopping cart package and is used for the control of
shopping carts pages.

In the past, I could ignore some styles listed in stylesheets by using
Format Font in FP. For example, in the style***, a link is defined by a
font (e.g. Times New Roman), but I could also use FP to format a link to
another font (e.g. Academy). That works fine.

The reason for this is that I am using two languages (Chinese and English)
for developing pages, and some Chinese fonts look better for certain words
and vice versa.

When using EWB, it will enforce strictly which might be good but does not
look very well. That means it will look for the linked style*** and
changed all links to that particular font. Any changes I made with EWB using
Format Font won't work.

I also noticed that "relative links" might also be changed sometime.

That's all for now. I believe this might be a powerful tool but I guess that
design concept might be totally different than FP, which could be the reason
for MS to come up a new one and stop FP.

I just thought it might take us some time to learn it and may need do some
house cleaning works for all the old works done with FP.

Eventually, we might have a "cleaner" and "powerful" site, but it would take
some efforts.


"Murray" <forums@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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For example, a boarder had been added to images without my knowledge and
it's difficult to find where to remove it.

Are these images links to something? If so, then EWD is not adding the
border, you are by making them links. To get rid of the borders, you
would need to have a style rule like this -

a img { border: none; }

What other changes are you seeing? I have not found EWD to do any "silent
changes".


--
Murray
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MVP FrontPage


"xfile" <cou-cou@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I found one of the most potential risk of using this beta is about
managing styles.

Maybe it is because of the beta or maybe it is because old FP did not do
the work well or maybe this is just by design.

In any case, many pages have been "silently" changed their style. For
example, a boarder had been added to images without my knowledge and it's
difficult to find where to remove it.

It is my guess that using EWD will eventually come up a cleaner page with
many new features, but it would take some house-cleaning works for all
the jobs done by FP previously.


"Cabby" <BassInk(nospam)@aol.com> wrote in message
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I downloaded EWD last Friday and am loving it. Very cool interface and so
much more functional than FP. I've had some glitches with things in the
beta
not yet working, but I've found work arounds for these things--so far.

"Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:

They say there will be a "reasonably" priced upgrade from FP to
EWD...dunno
what reasonable means though.

I like EWD too..pretty cool.


"xfile" <cou-cou@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| Hi,
|
| Has anyone tested Expression Web Designer?
|
| I've used it for two days so far (working on a live site) and found
it, as
| claimed, is easy to use and retains most functions of FrontPage in
addition
| to the new ones.
|
| It is also different than Visual Web Developer 2005 Express edition
which
is
| buggy and resource draining.
|
| Although there are some small bugs and problems (consider it is a
community
| review version), the overall performance is pretty stable - knock 3
times.
|
| One particular thing that I am very pleased about this edition, and
that
is
| it will not force you to go through and correct all "possible coding
errors"
| (as VWD would) before allowing to view a page in design view.
|
| Why is this important? Yes, we made many mistakes during developing
Web
| pages (especially for those like myself who are not professional
| programmers), such as not inserting "alt attributes" for images, and
putting
| incorrect attributes (e.g. marginwidth) in wrong places - and many of
those
| are done by our ex-best friend - FrontPage.
|
| But why do we have to correct each of them (image how many of them if
one
| had used FP for developing Web pages throughout the past years)
before we
| can even see a page in the Design View? That requirement is totally
| ridiculous.
|
| For those who are concerned the discontinued of FrontPage, I'd
encourage
you
| to download and try Expression Web Designer.
|
| Once thing that I am not so happy about the current community version
though
| is about sending web pages through Outlook and the lack of "mail
merge"
| capability as in Word.
|
| When I try to email web page within EWD, Outlook automatically block
the
| page as "unsafe" attachment. This will not happen if using
FrontPage.
|
| And when I work with FP 2003 for mail merging newsletters to
subscribers,
I
| had to save it to a local copy and open with Word 2003 and perform
mail
| merger.
|
| I would expect this can be improved with EWD so that we can use mail
merge
| directly with EWD.
|
| Finally, does anyone have any inside information about the final
release
| date of EWD and its possible pricing?
|
| That's all for now and hope this helps.
|
|









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