Re: Persistent 404 errors
- From: "Jo" <Jo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 20:37:03 -0700
Okay, I did it. I didn't see any change in the hyperlink error report, but
that doesn't mean anything necessarily. I won't be able to tell if the FP
Cleaner did the trick until I upload the site again and see how the stats
numbers change (or not). I'm currently making changes so I won't be able to
upload the site for a couple of days, but if there are still problems, I'll
be back! ;-) Thanks again for your help.
Jo
"Steve Easton" wrote:
> Go here: http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
> and download FP Cleaner.
> Run the functions that clear the Cache(.web) files and the FrontPage temporary
> files.
>
> When done, open FrontPage, open your web and Recalculate hyperlinks
> When that's done, click View > Reports > Problems > Hyperlinks and check the
> page that displays, for broken links and verify / repair those that show as
> broken.
>
> When done, republish the entire site.
>
>
> --
> Steve Easton
> Microsoft MVP FrontPage
> 95isalive
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>
> "Jo" <Jo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:243B3C12-D76C-4064-9A39-F15C4AC5D155@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > I keep getting weird 404 errors every month in my web server stats (Awstats).
> > I can't figure out how to fix them and it's starting to drive me a little
> > nuts. Since this problem seems to be related to a FrontPage 2003 theme I
> > created, I'm hoping someone here can help me figure this out. Sorry this post
> > is so long, but it's is a rather complex problem, and since I'm not sure
> > where the problem lies, I don't know what to include and what to leave out.
> > I'll try to explain it as clearly as I can. Please bear with me!
> >
> > Here's an example, showing a generic not-found filename and directory, then
> > the number of error hits so far this month, and then the web page supposedly
> > requesting the not-found file:
> >
> >
> /_themes/edwhite/'imagefile.gif'___68___http://www.evolvingdoor.ca/directory/fil
> ename.htm
> >
> > The most frequent 404 errors are for image files I created myself to use in
> > my own FrontPage 2003 theme (called "edwhite" which is the theme directory in
> > the example). These most common 404s often show in the stats with single
> > 'quotes' around the filename (although not always). This is weird because
> > these filenames never appear with quotes anywhere in the View Source code of
> > the uploaded page.
> >
> > I also get a lot of 404 errors from the background gif that is used on all
> > pages (with or without the quotes in the stats). All pages in my site use the
> > same theme. Yet, I only get 404 errors from a few pages, and which page is
> > reporting the 404 will change, so it's not like I can nail it down to certain
> > pages being the problem. Yet, it's never a situation where ALL accesses of a
> > certain page will produce the error -- only a small fraction of the total
> > access hits will return the 404 error. So it seems not to be something in the
> > page's coding, per se.
> >
> > I've tried re-loading the image files into the FP theme and re-uploading the
> > whole site several times, but it doesn't seem to change anything. Once I even
> > tried recreating one of the webpages from scratch, thinking it might be some
> > weird glitch in the coding, but it didn't solve the problem.
> >
> > Often the not-found graphics are not even used in the requesting page! In
> > fact, one of them (a second level bullet gif) is not used anywhere in my
> > site, although it's implemented as part of my theme in case I want to use it.
> > So I don't know why the requesting files are returning a 404 error if they're
> > not using that gif in the page anyway. Very weird.
> >
> > Another 404 that appears regularly is for a file called 'blank.gif' (with or
> > without the quotes). The thing is, this file is not in any directory of my
> > site, either online or offline. So I don't know why a webpage would be
> > looking for it. I think I might have experimented once with using a spacer
> > gif many months ago, and I might have called it 'blank.gif' but I don't
> > remember for sure. And it certainly isn't listed anywhere in my site now,
> > online or offline. I don't recall ever using it as part of a theme either. So
> > I don't know why this file keeps coming up in the 404 listings. Again, very
> > weird.
> >
> > Sometimes the requesting page seems to be looking for a not-found file in
> > the same directory as itself, instead of in the theme's directory. These are
> > usually non-theme image files, most of which were once stored in the same
> > directory as the calling page. Not all of them though: I'll usually get a few
> > 404s when a page looks for the background gif in its own directory, and that
> > gif has never resided in that directory. Very weird.
> >
> > For the images that used to reside in the same directory as the page that
> > used them: I changed that at least 4-6 months ago when I herded all image
> > files into a central image directory. You'd think that whoever/whatever is
> > triggering the 404s would have caught up by now, yet I still get these errors
> > -- not a lot of them, but enough that I am very puzzled where they're coming
> > from.
> >
> > I'm wondering if some of the errors might be due to SE indexing that hasn't
> > updated (although I'm crawled regularly and frequently by all the main SEs
> > and a few I've never even heard of). I've wondered if some of the SEs aren't
> > updating their map of my website but are still referring people to me?
> >
> > Or, is it possible that these 404 errors are from old bookmarks by
> > individual users whose browsers just don't update the page when it's accessed
> > again? It's an awfully high number, if that's the case (e.g., a couple of
> > hundred errors for the theme gifs per month). I'm reaching for any
> > explanation at this point!
> >
> > If it was simply a glitch in the page's coding, I would think the 404 error
> > would show up every time that page was accessed, but the numbers are just a
> > fraction of the number of total hits on that page.
> >
> > So I'm at a loss to explain or fix these 404 errors. I figured they would
> > level out and disappear after a while, thinking they were fallout from when I
> > changed my site's theme months ago. But they don't seem to be going away.
> > I've never noticed a problem with the gifs not showing on the pages when I
> > look at them online, but maybe they're not showing up on other people's
> > browsers and I don't even know it...except for these 404 errors. So I don't
> > want to just shrug this off either.
> >
> > I'm hoping someone can help me solve this mystery. Thanks in advance for any
> > help you can give me! And thanks for hanging in to read this long message.
> >
> > Jo
>
>
>
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