Re: Wrapper & Tables

Thank you so much for all the time and help. It made me start thinking about
other ways to accomplish my goals. I took out the layer completely. I put
all the player info into the blue header that was already there. The only
thing I lost was the black line... and I can easily live without that. I do
wonder what word art you meant... the placeholder for the photo? If so..
that's just temporary.
Thank you again so very much.

"Murray" wrote:

> First thing to know is that your Word Art/VML is IE only (that means it will
> not display properly for you in any other browser).
>
> Second thing is to change this -
>
> #wrapper { text-align:left; width: 750px; margin:0 auto; }
>
> to this -
>
> #wrapper { text-align:left; width: 750px; margin:0 auto;
> position:relative; }
>
> Finally, change this -
>
> <body onload="...GIGANTIC SNIP OF PRELOADS AND GET RID OF THOSE SPACES IN
> FILENAMES!...">
> <body>
> <div id="wrapper">
> <div align="center">
> <div align="center">
>
> to this -
>
> <body onload="...GIGANTIC SNIP OF PRELOADS AND GET RID OF THOSE SPACES IN
> FILENAMES!...">
> <div id="wrapper">
>
> (you had several improperly terminated <div align="center" tags there)
>
> Oh, one more thing - get this layer OUT OF THE TABLE - never put absolutely
> positioned page elements into a table cell -
>
> <div style="position: absolute; width: 546px; height: 242px; z-index: 1;
> left: 497px; top: 367px" id="layer1">
> <i>
> <font color="#FFFFFF" face="Times New Roman" style="font-size:
> 2pt"> <img border="0" src="../varsity_images/MCj02955030000[1]3.gif"
> width="180" height="239" align="right"></font></i><p style="margin-top: 0;
> margin-bottom: 0">
> ....snip...
> <p style="margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0"><i>
> <font face="Times New Roman" size="4" color="#FFFFFF">
> Height: 5'8"</font></i></p>
> <p style="margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0"></div>
>
> You would do that by cutting that code from the page, and pasting it back
> immediately above the closing </div><!-- /wrapper --> tag.
>
> I realize that this may be alot for someone unaccustomed to working with
> HTML markup, so I have posted the modified page here - you can browse to it
> (none of the images will work, but don't worry about that), copy the source,
> and paste it into the page in your site.
>
> http://www.murraytestsite.com/allie.htm
>
> BEWARE - I fear that the VML frame around your center text area are not
> going to respond properly to this treatment. It would be wise to remove it,
> in my opinion.
>
> FURTHER BEWARE - putting text content into an absolutely positioned element
> (that layer) is a very bad idea. Take a look at the page in Firefox and see
> what happens when you increase the text size a few clicks....
>
> --
> Murray
> ============
>
> "ATV" <ATV@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:26CCE84E-FD73-49C6-90A8-3DFFABE1DD99@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Yes, your right, I'm sorry. I meant a layer. Understand your confusion.
> > (My frustration level is affecting my communication skills.) I tried
> > your
> > suggestion and it still didn't work. I must have really screwed up
> > something. I put it back to the onriginal "brokenness." The url is:
> > www.harrisonvolleyball.net/PROFILES/allie.htm
> >
> > I appreciate your time.
> >
> > ATV
> >
> > "Murray" wrote:
> >
> >> That's not a "frame". The use of that term is definitely confusing.
> >>
> >> And using the wrapper as you have may be overkill for what you want to
> >> accomplish - although it is a great way to center the page.
> >>
> >> Are you using any absolute positioning? If not, then remove the
> >> position:relative from your wrapper. Everything will still center, and
> >> you
> >> will have removed an unnecessary style that could come back to bite you
> >> later when you forget it's there. It's doing nothing for you.
> >>
> >> Could I see this page? I am interested to see why this solves your
> >> problem - the two seem unrelated to me.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Murray
> >> ============
> >>
> >> "ATV" <ATV@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:037D85FB-D40A-4B0D-875E-702DAA2D86FA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > I'm sorry. I was trying to be so brief that I was not understandable.
> >> >
> >> > I built a website with a table. The right column has been blank on
> >> > every
> >> > page so that I can fill it with the oppropriate text.
> >> >
> >> > I am at a page now, however, that I need to break that colum into two
> >> > rows.
> >> > The top half needs a background fill with text and a picture. The
> >> > bottom
> >> > row
> >> > will remain blank for text. The top is a little too complicated for
> >> > the
> >> > table to handle so I thought I'd make a frame. The frame looks
> >> > perfect.
> >> > I
> >> > put the following code in:
> >> > The head:
> >> >
> >> > <!--
> >> > body { text-align:center; }
> >> > #wrapper { text-align:left; width 750px; margin:0 auto;
> >> > position:relative; }
> >> > </head>
> >> >
> >> > in the body I have
> >> > <body...>
> >> > <div id="wrapper">
> >> >
> >> > at the end of the body I have
> >> > </div><!-- /wrapper -->
> >> > </body>
> >> >
> >> > Even with the code -- which I've used a dozen times before, the frame I
> >> > created is throwing to the right of the screen. There must be a piece
> >> > of
> >> > the
> >> > code I'm missing.
> >> >
> >> > I hope this is a better explanation of my problem.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >> > "Murray" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I'm trying to channel your code, but I'm failing. Can you put your
> >> >> head
> >> >> closer to the monitor?
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Murray
> >> >> ============
> >> >>
> >> >> "ATV" <ATV@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> >> news:60AE9196-D700-4155-B793-26263CFD2CDD@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> > Help!!! I built an entire website off a simple table. I haven't
> >> >> > needed a
> >> >> > frame until now. I put a wrapper in the header and the body and
> >> >> > the/body.
> >> >> > My frame keeps throwing right. I'm using FrontPage 2003. Please
> >> >> > help.
> >> >> > I'm
> >> >> > out of ideas to fix it.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
.

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