Re: Frames question

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From: Hermione (Hermione_at_discussions.microsoft.com)
Date: 02/22/05 

Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 17:19:02 -0800

Hi Murray

As you said the reload pictures on the site are not unpeseate, I think that
it's depend on the internet connection speed too

Tomorrow I'll try to reoganize again my web site, I'll made two pages for
the visitors and the clients and I'll include the menu in each page. Note
that the menu contain 3 images total: 787 px width and 182px height and each
bottom of the menu is a picture in total I have 10 bottoms

I'd like to thank you for your help

Mirna

"Murray" wrote:

> Keeping your pages lightweight is the best way to avoid any reloading
> appearance.
>
> Each time you go to a new page, the code for that page must be fetched from
> the browser. If the page is 'verbose' that fetch can produce a noticeable
> delay between the blank browser viewport and the rendering of the page's
> code. However, graphics on that new page should be pulled from the local
> cache when needed rather than fetching them again from the server.
>
> So - the bottom line is that each new page must "reload". Ordinarily this
> is an insignificant delay, even on sites that use a fair amount of graphics.
> For example, visit this site of mine -
>
> http://www.raphaelarchitects.com.
>
> This is a reasonably graphic-heavy site. Yet I don't find the reloading as
> you transit from page to page to be unpleasant, or even undesireable - do
> you?
>
> --
> Murray
> ============
>
> "Hermione" <Hermione@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:383641DF-63BC-4CAC-B4F3-412FECD830BB@microsoft.com...
> > Hi Murray
> >
> > Yes the user has to click to a link:
> >
> > Client
> > Visitor
> >
> >
> > for this reason I made 3 inline frames, but when you told me about the
> > negative points, I decided to change my developpement strategy, I think
> > the
> > better way to do is two page one for the clients and other for the
> > visitors.
> >
> > another question, in each pages I include my menu (Menu.asp) and each time
> > I
> > load a page or I click on a link to a new page the menu reload, is there
> > anyway to not load the menu each time I click to go to a new page
> >
> > Thank you very much for your help and for the precious ideas
> >
> > Yours,
> >
> > "Murray" wrote:
> >
> >> > Is it better to do :
> >> >
> >> > 2 pages : one for client and on for visitor
> >> > OR
> >> > 1 page: and include files in this pages depending on what the user
> >> > choose
> >> >
> >>
> >> How are you determining whether the user is a client or a visitor? Are
> >> they
> >> simply clicking on a link that lets them select which? Or are you
> >> authenticating against some database?
> >>
> >> If the former, then just make two pages. If the latter, then have a
> >> single
> >> page that is populated with the correct data depending on the status of
> >> the
> >> user.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Murray
> >> ============
> >>
> >> "Hermione" <Hermione@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:A2135808-654E-4128-B669-B9E791000083@microsoft.com...
> >> > Hi Murray,
> >> >
> >> > My pages are not yet online I'm working on the internal server
> >> >
> >> > What I have:
> >> >
> >> > a unique page: download.asp
> >> >
> >> > When the user choose Client from the menu: I have to show certain
> >> > specification in the page download.asp
> >> >
> >> > when the user is a visitor I have to show certain specification in the
> >> > page
> >> > download.asp
> >> >
> >> > so I want to change the informations which are : html files
> >> >
> >> > I can send to you the code if you want my email address:
> >> > mirna76AThotmailDOTcom
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I'd like to have your opinion as professional:
> >> >
> >> > Is it better to do :
> >> >
> >> > 2 pages : one for client and on for visitor
> >> > OR
> >> > 1 page: and include files in this pages depending on what the user
> >> > choose
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >> > Thank hyou very very much for your responses
> >> >
> >> > Mirna
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Murray" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I don't quite understand your question, Hermione.
> >> >>
> >> >> Can you show me your page? That might help me put things in
> >> >> perspective.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Murray
> >> >> ============
> >> >>
> >> >> "Hermione" <Hermione@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:17418FAA-FA9F-46DC-90AA-F7C21E6A0E8A@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Hi Murray
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thank you very much for your idea I have to think to your idea, I
> >> >> > don't
> >> >> > want
> >> >> > problems with the clients and MY BOSSSSS
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Do you think that I have to think to use the include and if yes how
> >> >> > can
> >> >> > I
> >> >> > include a html file in a right cell, do I have to use the Padding?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Anyway thank you very much
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Murray" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Yes, it's quite possible.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> But think about this. When you do that to me (as a visitor to your
> >> >> >> site),
> >> >> >> and I then click on the browser's back tool (to return to the
> >> >> >> previous
> >> >> >> page), only one of your frames will change, leaving your frameset
> >> >> >> out
> >> >> >> of
> >> >> >> synch. To go back on both frames I would have to click on BACK
> >> >> >> twice.
> >> >> >> Most
> >> >> >> people find this terribly confusing, and it's one of the many
> >> >> >> reasons
> >> >> >> that
> >> >> >> frames are a poor design choice - particularly since the person
> >> >> >> most
> >> >> >> likely
> >> >> >> to choose them is also the person least likely to anticipate the
> >> >> >> problems,
> >> >> >> or to be able to fix them.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Nevertheless, you can select your link, and apply the Go To URL
> >> >> >> behavior
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> it, selecting first one file for one frame, and then another file
> >> >> >> for
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> other frame.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Murray
> >> >> >> ============
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Hermione" <Hermione@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:1E08E299-8671-411B-8156-776140A693DA@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> > Hello,
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > in my page I have 3 frames: F1, F2, F3
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I want when the user click on the link : ----Client----- a new
> >> >> >> > pages
> >> >> >> > will
> >> >> >> > load in 2 frames: F1 and F3
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Is it possible ?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Thank you
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

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