Re: Inline frames, die, die, die (aka please help!)

From: Murray (forums_at_HAHAgreat-web-sights.com)
Date: 02/14/05


Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 20:09:15 -0500

It's a nice looking site. I wouldn't have done it that way. A search
engine cannot find any of those inner pages. Since there is no content on
the home page, and since all the rest of the links are embedded in
javascript, the page rank is about zero, and likely to stay there.

-- 
Murray
"Bob Lehmann" <nospam@dontbotherme.zzz> wrote in message 
news:eL$rgeiEFHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> Yepperee.  IFrames have all of the same annoying problems as do frames.
>
> For sure.
>
> See this site - http://www.innovosecurity.com and take a look at menu.js 
> and
> states.js.
>
> I do ASP programming for an HTML guy. His client insisted on this.
>
> NOTE: This site also has alot of Flash, so you will need the plug-in to
> view.
>
> Bob Lehmann
>
> "Murray" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
> news:eFKzMSgEFHA.228@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Yepperee.  IFrames have all of the same annoying problems as do frames.
>>
>> -- 
>> Murray
>>
>> "Thomas A. Rowe" <tarowe@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:uYbU5NgEFHA.2300@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> > In order to include a PHP file in another page, the other page must be 
>> > a
>> > .php page as well. This applies to all server-side scripting languages,
>> > such as ASP, an ASP page can not be included in .htm(l) page.
>> >
>> > Another solution is just have these pages open in new browser window.
>> >
>> > Even if you found a solution to your issue, you are still making it
>> > impossible for users to link directly to the content of the item loaded
> in
>> > the IFrame, plus if you site is indexed by the search engines, the 
>> > links
>> > will go directly to the IFrame content, not your page with IFrame.
>> >
>> > As far a the scrollbar, if it is associated with the IFrame, then it
> will
>> > appear with the IFrame, if it is associated with the page, it will
> display
>> > for the page, this is how HTML works.
>> >
>> > Most things we do on the web has tradeoffs or limitations that we have
> to
>> > live with when want to do certain things, an frames is one of them.
>> >
>> > -- 
>> > ==============================================
>> > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
>> > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
>> > http://www.ycoln-resources.com
>> > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
>> > ==============================================
>> > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
>> > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
>> >
>> > "Stefan" <Stefan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > news:621DEBA3-BC32-40C6-9C45-DB7D7D9A6D93@microsoft.com...
>> >> This seemingly simple problem continues to drive me round the bend...
>> >> Sorry
>> >> for the verbose note:
>> >>
>> >> In my site (www.aaltenvoogd.com) I have included a discussion forum,
>> >> blog,
>> >> chat and picture gallery by using inline frames. I'm aware they are a
> Bad
>> >> Thing. They cause (predictably...) problems in not resizing* how I 
>> >> want
>> >> them
>> >> to and scrollbars appearing where I don't want them. I have tried to
> make
>> >> the
>> >> best of a bad deal but it is not satisfactory. Also, I don't want the
>> >> forum/blog/etc. to overtake the entire window but to be contained in
> the
>> >> space I have allocated for it. For example, after logging in on the
> Forum
>> >> it
>> >> opens in the whole window, leaving the user with no navigation to the
>> >> rest of
>> >> my site.
>> >>
>> >> What I would like to achieve, for each of these four sections of my
> site,
>> >> is
>> >> to display them on a single page which uses my site design (little
>> >> flashmovie
>> >> top left, global menu at the top, etc.) and has the content in the 
>> >> main
>> >> panel. If scrollbars are required then I would like these to appear in
>> >> the
>> >> browser window, NOT in the frame inside the browser window.
>> >>
>> >> I have explored the use of include pages and server side includes but
>> >> these
>> >> don't achieve the desired effect either. The forum and picture gallery
>> >> are
>> >> PHP files and "including" a PHP file does not have any effect at all
>> >> (even
>> >> though my local system and my web host both have PHP correctly
> installed
>> >> and
>> >> running) - you just get a blank page where the php should appear. The
>> >> blog
>> >> points to my blog on a separate site.
>> >>
>> >> I have posted questions about this here before and have had some help
> or
>> >> pointers but all to no avail unfortunately.
>> >>
>> >> Using FrontPage 2003 and Dynamic Web Templates.
>> >>
>> >> I would be very grateful for any help on this one!
>> >>
>> >> Many thanks,
>> >> Stefan
>> >>
>> >> * Frame resizing: width is set at 100% and horizontal resizing
> behaviour
>> >> is
>> >> correct, but setting height to 100% the frame does not resize how it
>> >> should
>> >> and I have therefore had to retain a fixed height.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
> 


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